From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.comp.gnu.core-utils.bugs,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: dired-move-to-filename-regexp Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:34:58 +0900 Sender: bug-coreutils-bounces+gcgcb-bug-coreutils-616=gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <414D38E0.4080300@math.ku.dk> <7w8yb6wty1.fsf@sic.twinsun.com> <7wr7oxzgs4.fsf@sic.twinsun.com> <20040920050006.GA7888@fencepost> <876566decg.fsf@penguin.cs.ucla.edu> <20040923232700.GA849@fencepost> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1096256137 1606 80.91.229.6 (27 Sep 2004 03:35:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 03:35:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eggert@CS.UCLA.EDU, bug-coreutils@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-coreutils-bounces+gcgcb-bug-coreutils-616=gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 27 05:35:24 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CBmIO-0002WH-00 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 05:35:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CBmOb-0001iU-L6 for gcgcb-bug-coreutils-616@gmane.org; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 23:41:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CBmOY-0001iJ-5S for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 23:41:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CBmOW-0001i7-LQ for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 23:41:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CBmOW-0001i4-HM; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 23:41:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [202.32.8.202] (helo=tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CBmIB-0006Iu-IJ; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 23:35:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp (mailgate54.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.197]) by tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W01080315) with ESMTP id i8R3Z4n24025; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:35:04 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from root@localhost) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) id i8R3Z4h02803; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:35:04 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from edtmg02.lsi.nec.co.jp ([10.26.16.202]) by mailsv.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W-MAILSV-NEC) with ESMTP id i8R3Z3W09257; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:35:03 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edtmg02.lsi.nec.co.jp (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8R3Z2T4026010; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:35:02 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mctpc71 (mctpc71.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp [10.30.118.121]) by mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (8.12.10/8.12.8/EDcg v2.01-mc/1046780839) with ESMTP id i8R3Ywwt016043; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:35:01 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by mctpc71 (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 0BD27535; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:34:58 +0900 (JST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:41:08 -0400") Original-Lines: 25 X-BeenThere: bug-coreutils@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "GNU Core Utilities: bug reports and discussion" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-coreutils-bounces+gcgcb-bug-coreutils-616=gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.gnu.core-utils.bugs:2945 gmane.emacs.devel:27594 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:27594 Richard Stallman writes: > It maybe a bit less work, but it's certainly not "better" -- without the > auto-adjustment feature, it "simply" would use absurdly large amounts of > whitespace _just in case_ a file happens to be hundreds of gigabytes in size > and have thousands of links. > > If ls does what ls used to do, it won't be worse than it was. Actually I think it's been getting worse recently because of the advent of large file systems, etc -- you can no longer assume that 8 or 9 characters is enough for the file's size. Morever, it was never that good: the excess whitespace caused annoyance for me even in the old days. The new flexibility of ls is generally a _win_ from a user's point of view, it's only slightly unusual applications of it such as emacs' dired updating-after-rename in which it's not. I like dired, and I'd like it to be as user-friendly as possible. However, the argument seems moot, as Stefan's patch would appear to solve the problem. Yay! Thanks Stefan... -Miles -- ((lambda (x) (list x x)) (lambda (x) (list x x)))