From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: choice for the new emacs icon Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:21:21 +0900 Message-ID: References: <200802050135.m151ZGDH005052@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <47A80C5F.7000404@swipnet.se> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1202196117 21266 80.91.229.12 (5 Feb 2008 07:21:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 07:21:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jan =?utf-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 05 08:22:18 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JMI8H-00083x-Ne for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:22:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JMI7p-0008Fh-CV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:21:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JMI7k-0008Fc-N1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:21:44 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JMI7j-0008FN-Io for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:21:44 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JMI7j-0008FK-ES for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:21:43 -0500 Original-Received: from tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp ([202.32.8.206]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JMI7f-0002LD-DO; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:21:39 -0500 Original-Received: from relay11.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.46]) by tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m157LMVJ029420; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:21:22 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from relay21.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.20] [10.29.19.20]) by relay11.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:21:22 +0900 Original-Received: from dhapc248.dev.necel.com ([10.114.112.215] [10.114.112.215]) by relay21.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:21:22 +0900 Original-Received: by dhapc248.dev.necel.com (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 04AE2594; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:21:21 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: <47A80C5F.7000404@swipnet.se> ("Jan =?utf-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv=22's?= message of "Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:12:31 +0100") Original-Lines: 21 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:88248 Archived-At: Jan Dj=C3=A4rv writes: > I'd go for emacs_128.png. But as others have pointed out, the current > Emacs icon is not that old. And I don't think these new ones are that > much different to warrant a change. AFAICS, the main difference is that they follow some sort of OSX convention for editors -- the fountain pen in the corner. So that may be the right thing on OSX, but seems a bit questionable on other systems. It's not just that conventions differ on other systems, but the apparent main point -- the pen -- is missing in the smaller versions that will often be used on non-OSX systems (OSX uses huge icons compared to most systems). Once that pen is gone, you're left with some horns or an Ein a blue circle... not exactly an improvement, it seems to me... [it will look even _more_ like the debian iceweasel icon...] -Miles --=20 It wasn't the Exxon Valdez captain's driving that caused the Alaskan oil sp= ill. It was yours. [Greenpeace advertisement, New York Times, 25 February 1990]