From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk scrollbar: thumb too short Date: 15 Apr 2003 10:31:08 +0900 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200304111308.h3BD8oW03188@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <844r55f7yr.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <84ptnt6oc8.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <200304150124.h3F1OWT06102@eel.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1050370401 17804 80.91.224.249 (15 Apr 2003 01:33:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 01:33:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 15 03:33:20 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 195FK4-0004d1-00 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2003 03:33:20 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 195FLh-0002Si-00 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2003 03:35:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 195FJP-0006hU-09 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 14 Apr 2003 21:32:39 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 195FIU-0005jL-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Apr 2003 21:31:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 195FIS-0005iL-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Apr 2003 21:31:41 -0400 Original-Received: from tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp ([202.32.8.214]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 195FIA-0005dW-00; Mon, 14 Apr 2003 21:31:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mailgate3.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.194])h3F1VCq10547; Tue, 15 Apr 2003 10:31:12 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from root@localhost) by mailgate3.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) id h3F1VCq26495; Tue, 15 Apr 2003 10:31:12 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from edsgm01.lsi.nec.co.jp ([10.50.208.11]) by mailsv4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILSV4-NEC) with ESMTP id h3F1VB218880; Tue, 15 Apr 2003 10:31:11 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) id KAA29228; Tue, 15 Apr 2003 10:31:10 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (mcspd15 [10.30.114.174]) with ESMTP id h3F1V8NH007986; Tue, 15 Apr 2003 10:31:09 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 49FD8370A; Tue, 15 Apr 2003 10:31:08 +0900 (JST) Original-To: Luc Teirlinck System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: <200304150124.h3F1OWT06102@eel.dms.auburn.edu> Original-Lines: 15 Original-cc: rms@gnu.org Original-cc: kai.grossjohann@gmx.net X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:13234 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:13234 Luc Teirlinck writes: > 1. Implement stickiness. > 2. Only allow overscrolling if the end of the buffer was visible at > the start of scrolling. > 3. Use the Motiv - current GTK behavior but color the piece of the > scrollbar that corresponds to the empty space at the bottom > differently. (2) sounds like very annoying behavior (and I'll bet it would result in a lot of user confusion -- it would probably seem to many people like the overscrolling was simply flaky). -Miles -- `The suburb is an obsolete and contradictory form of human settlement'