From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk version getting closer Date: 15 Nov 2002 13:04:10 +0900 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200211071936.gA7JaBMU001860@stubby.bodenonline.com> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1037334028 19864 80.91.224.249 (15 Nov 2002 04:20:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 04:20:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dmaster@synopsys.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18CXxz-0005AG-00 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 05:20:27 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18CYAg-0002M8-00 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 05:33:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18CXxx-0003cV-00; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:20:25 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18CXiV-00065g-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:04:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18CXiT-00064k-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:04:26 -0500 Original-Received: from tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp ([210.143.35.51]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18CXiS-00060d-00; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:04:24 -0500 Original-Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.197]) by TYO201.gate.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W01080315) with ESMTP id gAF44Hl21792; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 13:04:17 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mailsv4.nec.co.jp (mailgate51.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.190]) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) with ESMTP id gAF44G414757; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 13:04:16 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp ([10.30.114.133]) by mailsv4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILSV4-NEC) with ESMTP id gAF44F228100; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 13:04:15 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (mcspd15 [10.30.114.174]) by mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (8.10.2+Sun/3.7Wlsi_mx_6.0) with ESMTP id gAF44AB28615; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 13:04:11 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (Postfix, from userid 31295) id C1C483815; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 13:04:10 +0900 (JST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 19 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:9446 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:9446 Richard Stallman writes: > In that case, tooltips for menus only popup if you use the "What's > this?" command (Shift-F1). > > If users are accustomed to this and like it, it would be a good > approach. But can it be implemented without changing the toolkits? > > This might be a useful change to make in GTK. Some users may be more used to it (I don't know), but I presume not Gnome users -- Gnome panel menus act exactly like emacs menus currently do, they pop up tooltips without any special command. I like the current method, so I hope any change is completely optional (and certainly I'd like to use a GTK toolkit version of emacs). -Miles -- Run away! Run away!