From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Shift-movement selection Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:11:53 +0900 Message-ID: References: <200803050637.m256bXL3008361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87hcfkdhqk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87d4q8sq9c.fsf@jurta.org> <8763w0n393.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <871w6ounk0.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87ablacdxt.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87skyzzeng.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205122371 1924 80.91.229.12 (10 Mar 2008 04:12:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 04:12:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, storm@cua.dk To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 10 05:13:18 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JYZO1-00063o-LZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 05:13:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JYZNT-0008F1-DY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:12:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JYZNP-0008EW-5D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:12:39 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JYZNN-0008EK-NI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:12:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JYZNN-0008EF-Ib for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:12:37 -0400 Original-Received: from tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp ([202.32.8.193]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JYZNG-0006hr-HY; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:12:31 -0400 Original-Received: from relay21.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.50]) by tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m2A4BpI8017510; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:11:54 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from relay21.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.16] [10.29.19.16]) by relay21.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:11:54 +0900 Original-Received: from dhapc248.dev.necel.com ([10.114.112.215] [10.114.112.215]) by relay21.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:11:54 +0900 Original-Received: by dhapc248.dev.necel.com (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 1C48C4D0; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:11:54 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:37:27 -0400") Original-Lines: 20 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91997 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> So to make it work "correctly", you need to modify all commands in >> emacs! [yikes!] > > Most commands already deactivate the mark. So which ones would be left? Anything that doesn't modify the buffer -- e.g. all movement commands. > Do they matter? I think movement commands matter, yes. Anyway, since it's becoming clear there's an alternative that actually does the right thing, and does not require such an obviously brittle method, why not use it? -Miles -- Once, adj. Enough.