From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Longlines mode in menu Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:39:21 +0900 Message-ID: References: <87wsl41lq0.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <516DD869-4D41-4EDD-B2A3-57787DF374D7@gmail.com> <4858B5B4.2070604@gmail.com> <66259172-038D-4367-BEAC-211FE9981637@gmail.com> <48593500.1030003@gmail.com> <48597529.1000400@gmail.com> <87ej6ub7ev.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1213861234 15933 80.91.229.12 (19 Jun 2008 07:40:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David Reitter , Emacs-Devel devel To: "Lennart Borgman" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 19 09:41:17 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K9Ela-0005ol-S1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:41:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58127 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K9Ekm-0007ik-84 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:40:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K9Ek1-0007E0-4L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:39:33 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K9Ejz-0007DD-8W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:39:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34891 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K9Ejz-0007D7-0L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:39:31 -0400 Original-Received: from tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp ([202.32.8.206]:47465) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K9Eju-0007Mr-Mq; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:39:27 -0400 Original-Received: from relay21.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.50]) by tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m5J7dLqc028879; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:39:21 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from relay11.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.20] [10.29.19.20]) by relay21.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:39:21 +0900 Original-Received: from dhapc248.dev.necel.com ([10.114.112.215] [10.114.112.215]) by relay11.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:39:21 +0900 Original-Received: by dhapc248.dev.necel.com (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 8BA8E55; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:39:21 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:21:59 +0200") Original-Lines: 22 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99448 Archived-At: "Lennart Borgman" writes: >> Eh? Maybe (hopefully!) I misunderstand what's being said, but any >> change that makes the arrow keys do the "right thing", but _not_ C-n/C-p >> is broken, full stop. > > Both things are "right", it might be good to have both behaviors available. > I guess those using the arrow keys more expect the new behaviour. In general, C-n/C-p should do exactly the same thing as the arrow keys. The context of this discussion AFAIK, is with regard to Kim's display-time word-wrapping patch. The typical situation where you would want display-time word-wrapping is when you're editing text where there's one newline per paragraph. When editing such text, "visual" line-movement becomes more or less a necessity for normal editing, and clearly we want C-n/C-p to be usable for normal editing. -Miles -- Mayonnaise, n. One of the sauces that serve the French in place of a state religion.