From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Improved help from minibuffer prompts Date: 14 Apr 2004 10:22:49 +0900 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1081906026 10676 80.91.224.253 (14 Apr 2004 01:27:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 01:27:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 14 03:26:58 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BDZB4-0004AC-00 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 03:26:58 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BDZB4-0000kz-00 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 03:26:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BDZ8b-0002Uh-4C for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 21:24:25 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BDZ8U-0002Th-SP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 21:24:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BDZ7y-0002Gi-Fx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 21:24:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [210.143.35.52] (helo=TYO202.gate.nec.co.jp) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BDZ7T-00025W-9l; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 21:23:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp (mailgate54.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.195]) by TYO202.gate.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W01080315) with ESMTP id i3E1Mwh26969; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:22:58 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from root@localhost) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) id i3E1Mw008598; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:22:58 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from edsgm02.lsi.nec.co.jp ([10.50.208.12]) by mailsv4.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W-MAILSV4-NEC) with ESMTP id i3E1MvX07200; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:22:57 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edsgm02.lsi.nec.co.jp (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i3E1Mor2009939; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:22:56 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcspd15 (mcspd15 [10.30.114.174]) by mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (8.12.10/8.12.8/EDcg v2.01-mc/1046780839) with ESMTP id i3E1MnnX020829; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:22:49 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by mcspd15 (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 8CAF7437; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:22:49 +0900 (JST) Original-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Stefan_Reich=F6r?= System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 29 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:21607 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:21607 Stefan Reich=F6r writes: > > How about having the completion-help display code[*] do it: > > when showing completions, if there's only a single unique completion, > > show instead the help buffer. > > I don't think, one can use '?' for the example above. > Or do I miss something here? Ah... you're right! I was completely confused about what you're suggesting. You were describing a way of getting help _after_ a command has been started, whereas what I described is a way of getting help _before_ doing so. I guess both could be useful, but to address your suggestion specifically: It seems like a good idea to me; the main question I have is whether having F1 (or C-h) act differently in the minibuffer is natural for most users or not. As the normal help-menu binding for those keys already acts weirdly in the minibuffer -- it doesn't display the help prompt -- maybe that suggests that it's unusual to use them in the minibuffer. -Miles --=20 [|nurgle|] ddt- demonic? so quake will have an evil kinda setting? one that will make every christian in the world foamm at the mouth? [iddt] nurg, that's the goal