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From: Miles Bader <miles.bader@necel.com>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc,
	andreas.roehler@online.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>,
	Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: region-active-p
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:59:30 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <buo4pg7ww7x.fsf@dhapc248.dev.necel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <85ve8nzt8m.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Wed\, 31 Oct 2007 07\:35\:37 +0100")

David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
>> Personally I think we should just use region-active-p, with non-empty
>> test by default -- the incompatibility with xemacs is minor, and I
>> think it's far more important that the code in Emacs be clear.  I'm
>> sure package authors can cope in those (very few) cases where it
>> actually makes any difference.
>
> But the standard test _is_ (and transient-make-mode mark-active) and has
> been so for eternities.  And it will stay that way for external packages
> for a long time to come.  So we will get inconsistent behavior.

Who cares?  In most cases, the new behavior is _better_.

In other words, it seems likely that the number of times a user is
_helped_ because the new behavior is more intuitive, will exceed the
number of times a user is confused because the behavior is not 100% the
same as it was previously.

-Miles

-- 
My books focus on timeless truths.  -- Donald Knuth

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-31  7:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-19  9:49 region-active-p Andreas Röhler
2007-10-19 20:57 ` region-active-p Juri Linkov
2007-10-21  7:25   ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-10-21 13:56     ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-10-21 14:48       ` region-active-p Miles Bader
2007-10-21 19:22         ` region-active-p Andreas Röhler
2007-10-23  7:12           ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-10-23  8:53             ` region-active-p Andreas Röhler
2007-10-23 17:53               ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-10-24  7:33                 ` region-active-p Andreas Röhler
2007-10-25  2:10                   ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-10-24 19:34             ` region-active-p Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-10-25  9:01               ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-10-26  5:38                 ` region-active-p Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-10-26  8:17                   ` region-active-p Andreas Röhler
2007-10-26  9:21                     ` region-active-p Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-10-26 11:03                       ` region-active-p Andreas Röhler
2007-10-26 21:53                         ` region-active-p Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-10-27  2:28                       ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-10-27  5:20                         ` region-active-p Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-10-27  6:17                           ` region-active-p Miles Bader
2007-10-27  7:57                             ` region-active-p Andreas Röhler
2007-10-28  6:55                             ` region-active-p Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-10-28  7:32                               ` region-active-p Miles Bader
2007-10-28 12:15                             ` region-active-p Johan Bockgård
2007-10-28 21:07                               ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-10-28 21:07                               ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-10-27 23:41                           ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-10-28  1:21                             ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-10-28  1:27                               ` region-active-p Miles Bader
2007-10-28  2:43                                 ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-10-29  0:11                               ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-10-29  1:40                                 ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-12-10 23:08                                   ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-12-11  8:15                                     ` region-active-p Andreas Röhler
2007-12-11  9:57                                       ` region-active-p Juri Linkov
2007-12-11 11:52                                         ` region-active-p Andreas Röhler
2007-12-11 14:55                                           ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-12-11 17:05                                             ` region-active-p Andreas Röhler
2007-12-11 18:16                                               ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-12-11  9:07                                     ` region-active-p Andreas Röhler
2007-12-11  9:59                                       ` region-active-p Juri Linkov
2007-12-11 11:50                                         ` region-active-p Andreas Röhler
2007-10-28  7:29                             ` region-active-p Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-10-28 21:06                               ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-10-29  0:11                               ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-10-30  0:12                                 ` region-active-p Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-10-30  8:22                                   ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-10-30  8:59                                     ` region-active-p David Kastrup
2007-10-31  7:46                                       ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-10-30 15:03                                     ` region-active-p Drew Adams
2007-10-30 19:03                                       ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-10-30 19:49                                         ` region-active-p Drew Adams
2007-10-30 20:15                                           ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-10-30 20:28                                             ` region-active-p Drew Adams
2007-10-30 21:30                                               ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-10-30 23:43                                           ` region-active-p Miles Bader
2007-10-31  6:35                                             ` region-active-p David Kastrup
2007-10-31  7:59                                               ` Miles Bader [this message]
2007-11-03 21:08                                             ` region-active-p Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-10-31  7:47                                       ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-10-31  7:47                                       ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-10-31  8:00                                         ` region-active-p Miles Bader
2007-10-31 23:58                                           ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-11-01  2:33                                             ` region-active-p Miles Bader
2007-11-01  2:55                                               ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-11-01 10:06                                                 ` region-active-p Kim F. Storm
2007-11-01 15:46                                                   ` region-active-p Drew Adams
2007-11-01 17:56                                                     ` region-active-p David Kastrup
2007-11-01 23:08                                                       ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-11-01 19:04                                               ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-11-02  0:18                                                 ` region-active-p Miles Bader
2007-11-02 15:02                                                   ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-11-02 21:39                                                     ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-11-02 22:31                                                     ` region-active-p Miles Bader
2007-11-03 20:48                                                       ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-11-05  6:48                                                         ` region-active-p Miles Bader
2007-10-29  8:24                               ` region-active-p Andreas Röhler
2007-10-22  6:09         ` region-active-p Andreas Röhler
2007-10-21 17:18       ` region-active-p Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-10-21 20:54         ` region-active-p Reiner Steib

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