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From: Miles Bader <miles@lsi.nec.co.jp>
Subject: display word wrapping
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 19:02:19 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <buo3c5n5wwk.fsf@mctpc71.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp> (raw)

Using variable-width fonts more regularly has gotten me musing about
display word-wrapping support (for the next version, not this one :-).

I've always thought that since the display engine does `proper' wrapping
for variable-width characters already (variable-width fonts, tabs, etc),
which really seems to work awful darn well, maybe it wouldn't be too
hard to trick it into treating words in the buffer as `characters' for
wrapping purposes.  That seems like it might make everything just work
correctly.

What I'm wondering is what other support, besides the basic `wrap lines
at word boundaries' is needed.

  * A text-property that defines left/right margins -- with display
    wrapping the window boundary is probably not exactly right,
    you often want some whitespace in there.

  * A way to define how words are divided for the magic wrapping.  I
    suppose it should use syntax tables in some way; I'm not sure are
    they easy to use or not from the display engine's point of view?
    I'm thinking that to make things simple, you'd always want to wrap
    _after_ whitespace (so that it remains editable, but doesn't mess
    with your left margin)

  * You probably want to turn off the fringe wrapping glyphs, but maybe
    not the fringes...

  * Good support for display-oriented C-n/C-p (I'm not sure existing
    methods e.g using `vertical-motion' work well with variable-width
    characters)

What else?

Just babbling,

-Miles
-- 
Any man who is a triangle, has thee right, when in Cartesian Space, to
have angles, which when summed, come to know more, nor no less, than
nine score degrees, should he so wish.  [TEMPLE OV THEE LEMUR]

             reply	other threads:[~2004-05-26 10:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 174+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-05-26 10:02 Miles Bader [this message]
2004-05-26 10:53 ` display word wrapping Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-26 11:29 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-26 12:54   ` Miles Bader
2004-05-26 14:50     ` David Kastrup
2004-05-26 15:06       ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-26 19:16         ` David Kastrup
2004-05-26 19:50           ` Miles Bader
2004-05-26 21:43             ` i-search face-cache crash [was Re: display word wrapping] Kim F. Storm
2004-05-27  0:12               ` Miles Bader
2004-05-27  8:33                 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-27  4:48               ` i-search face-cache crash Miles Bader
2004-05-27 23:54                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-26 20:58           ` display word wrapping Kim F. Storm
2004-05-27  7:31             ` Jason Rumney
2004-05-26 22:21           ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-27  5:59           ` Miles Bader
2004-05-26 19:45         ` Miles Bader
2004-05-26 21:01           ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-26 21:33             ` Miles Bader
2004-05-26 21:55               ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-27  0:38                 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-26 21:52           ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-27 23:53           ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-27  9:08         ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-27 10:41           ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-27 11:15             ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-28  7:57               ` Jason Rumney
2004-05-28  8:24                 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-28  9:36                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-29 20:54                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-30  1:38                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-30  6:12                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-05-30 16:50                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-30 18:27                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-05-31  0:40                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-31  7:34                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-05-31 14:40                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-31 15:28                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-05-31 17:41                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-06-01  7:14                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-01 20:32                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-06-01 20:53                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2004-06-01 23:50                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-02  7:58                                             ` Kim F. Storm
2004-06-02  8:25                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-02  4:55                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-06-02  7:27                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-31 17:55                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-05-31 18:39                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-31 19:03                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-31 20:19                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2004-05-31 21:36                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-31 19:18                                   ` Miles Bader
2004-05-31 20:02                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-31 19:09                                 ` Jason Rumney
2004-05-31 15:27                               ` Andreas Schwab
2004-05-31 18:33                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-31 19:05                           ` Jason Rumney
2004-05-31 22:19                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-01  4:43                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-06-01  7:16                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-28  9:15               ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2004-05-28  9:48                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-28  9:24               ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-05-28  9:46                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-29  1:43                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-29 11:37                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-05-29 15:07                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-30 14:30                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-30 16:58                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-31 18:39                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-31 18:55                       ` Jason Rumney
2004-06-02 17:36                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-31 21:05                 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-27 21:32             ` W32 image support (was Re: display word wrapping) Jason Rumney
2004-05-28 15:54           ` display word wrapping Peter Lee
2004-05-28 21:48             ` Jason Rumney
2004-05-29  3:19             ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-29 23:10               ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-29 23:23                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-30 19:41                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-31 19:12                 ` Jason Rumney
2004-05-31 20:18                   ` Kim F. Storm
2004-06-02 15:04                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-02 22:17                       ` Jason Rumney
2004-06-02 22:43                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-03  7:49                           ` Jason Rumney
2004-06-03  8:40                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-03  9:00                               ` David Kastrup
2004-06-03  9:16                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-03  9:26                                   ` David Kastrup
2004-06-03 10:02                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-03 12:04                               ` Kim F. Storm
2004-06-03 13:52                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-03 20:43                                   ` Kim F. Storm
2004-06-04  1:39                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-04  8:07                                       ` Kim F. Storm
2004-06-04  9:09                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-04  9:29                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-04 12:40                                             ` Kim F. Storm
2004-06-04 12:45                                           ` Kim F. Storm
2004-06-04 13:42                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-04 14:16                                               ` Kim F. Storm
2004-06-05  1:20                                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-07 12:55                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-07 13:34                                                     ` Kim F. Storm
2004-06-07 16:00                                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-07 23:11                                                         ` Kim F. Storm
2004-06-08  0:33                                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-08  6:38                                                             ` David Kastrup
2004-06-08  8:06                                                               ` Kim F. Storm
2004-06-08  8:23                                                                 ` David Kastrup
2004-06-08  9:33                                                                   ` Kim F. Storm
2004-06-08  9:54                                                                     ` David Kastrup
2004-06-08 10:02                                                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-08 10:10                                                                         ` David Kastrup
2004-06-08 10:24                                                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-08 10:43                                                                             ` David Kastrup
2004-06-08 11:17                                                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-08 12:08                                                                                 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-06-08 12:22                                                                                   ` Miles Bader
2004-06-08 12:31                                                                                     ` David Kastrup
2004-06-08 11:31                                                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-08 11:39                                                                                 ` David Kastrup
2004-06-08 12:11                                                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-08 12:05                                                                                 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-06-08 12:13                                                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-08 10:00                                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-08  8:14                                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-02 23:47                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-03  7:43                           ` Jason Rumney
2004-06-03  7:54                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-03  9:37                           ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2004-06-03  9:54                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-07 11:13                               ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2004-06-07 13:29                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-07 16:37                                   ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2004-06-01 16:34               ` Peter Lee
2004-06-01 20:43                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-06-02  0:05                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-29 17:02             ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-29 18:19               ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-30 19:41                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-31 18:42               ` Jason Rumney
2004-06-01  4:51                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-06-01  7:18                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-01 20:40                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-06-03  0:19                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-02  3:44                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-27 12:28         ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-27 23:53           ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-28 14:21             ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-29  1:43               ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-26 17:51       ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-05-26 19:39         ` David Kastrup
2004-05-27  8:14           ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-05-26 12:57 ` Henrik Enberg
2004-05-26 16:15   ` David Kastrup
2004-05-27 23:54 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-28  8:37   ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-28  9:52     ` Miles Bader
2004-05-29 10:33       ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-29  1:44     ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-29  8:28       ` Karl Eichwalder
2004-05-30 14:30         ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-30 16:50           ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-31 18:39             ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-29  9:46       ` Jason Rumney
2004-05-30  3:11         ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-30  6:08           ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-05-30 14:30         ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-28  9:07   ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-05-29  1:43     ` Richard Stallman

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