From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Please post older versions of GNU Emacs manuals on the web Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 08:34:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: References: <1e249214-6831-4c2b-98a4-d16a6d1d7048@default> <87lh87j5kb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451838891 29619 80.91.229.3 (3 Jan 2016 16:34:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 16:34:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup , Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 03 17:34:38 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aFlc5-0002du-Ki for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 17:34:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42145 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFlc1-0005dl-Tv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 11:34:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37975) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFlbl-0005dY-Fj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 11:34:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFlbi-00081v-AU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 11:34:17 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:28999) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFlbi-00081p-3b; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 11:34:14 -0500 Original-Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u03GYCB0017573 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 3 Jan 2016 16:34:13 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u03GYC2P008126 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 3 Jan 2016 16:34:12 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0014.oracle.com (abhmp0014.oracle.com [141.146.116.20]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u03GYCG7030629; Sun, 3 Jan 2016 16:34:12 GMT In-Reply-To: <87lh87j5kb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.81 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:197461 Archived-At: > >> In addition, I think the text about defadvice was deleted from the > >> manual too soon. Just because it is no longer the recommended > >> interface is no reason to remove it from the Lisp manual. > > > > OK, since there seems to be general agreement, how about we pull > > defadvice back into the manual for 25.1, with a note that has been > > deprecated. >=20 > That seems to make sense. However, Raman stated that nadvice does not > work for a number of use cases he currently uses defadvice for. That > hole needs to be filled in some manner eventually, or we will never be > justified in completing deprecation. +1 There is also the question of using defadvice to modify a doc string. AFAICT, that is another hole unfilled by nadvice.