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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: Losing minibuffer input
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 10:52:41 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bf9d5bf3-c560-4894-a653-999ebb42ff78@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fvds2r5i.fsf@mail.jurta.org>

> when editing multi-line text in the minibuffer: it's too easy to lose
> edited text by pressing an up-down arrow key with the intention to go
> to the next/previous line like in a normal buffer.  The changes are
> lost because the up-down key has a special meaning in the minibuffer
> to go to the next/previous history item.

So just don't do that.  Use `C-n' & `C-p' to move to a different line.

And you can always use `undo' to undo any such boo-boo and get back
what (you think) you lost.  You can _edit_ text in the minibuffer.
In particular, `undo' works fine.

But if the vanilla Emacs behavior really bothers you, then customize
bindings in your `minibuffer-local-map' - for your own use.  Trivial
to do.

> The fix is simple:

It ain't broke; don't fix it.

> allow up-down arrow keys to have their usual behavior and only on
> hitting the beginning/end of the minibuffer move to the next
> or previous history item, thus making navigation more smooth and
> continuous.

So now users will need to move point to the beginning or end of the
minibuffer, just to get `up' and `down' to navigate the history list?

No thanks.

>(define-key map [down]  'next-line-or-history-element)
>(define-key map [up]    'previous-line-or-history-element)
> 
> (defun next-line-or-history-element (&optional arg)
>   "Move cursor vertically down ARG lines, or to the next history element.
> When point is at the bottom line of multi-line minibuffer, puts ARGth
> next element of the minibuffer history in the minibuffer."

The language here even underlines how much of a mishmash this is.
Move _the cursor_ to the next history element?  I don't think so.

This behavior is not only not handy; it is also confusing.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-11-09 18:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-09 17:57 Losing minibuffer input Juri Linkov
2014-11-09 18:17 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-11-09 18:33   ` Juri Linkov
2014-11-09 18:53     ` Drew Adams
2014-11-13 20:23       ` Juri Linkov
2014-11-14 11:16         ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-11-18 21:36           ` Juri Linkov
2014-11-20 22:38             ` Johan Bockgård
2014-11-20 23:58               ` Juri Linkov
2014-11-21  7:37               ` previous-line, next-line at the first, last lines of the buffer Ivan Shmakov
2014-11-21  8:49                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-21  9:12                   ` Ivan Shmakov
2014-11-30 13:31                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-09 18:52   ` Losing minibuffer input Drew Adams
2014-11-09 18:52 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2014-11-13 21:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-18 21:40   ` Juri Linkov
2014-11-19  4:22     ` Drew Adams
2014-11-20 23:52       ` Juri Linkov
2014-11-21  0:24         ` Drew Adams
2014-11-20 16:35     ` Daniel Colascione
2014-11-20 23:55       ` Juri Linkov
2014-12-05  0:38       ` Multi-line input (was: Losing minibuffer input) Juri Linkov
2014-12-05  2:03         ` Multi-line input Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 16:24           ` Yuri Khan
2014-12-05 18:45             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 22:43           ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]           ` <<E1Xx1bN-0007f9-Ut@fencepost.gnu.org>
2014-12-05 23:02             ` Drew Adams
2014-12-06 12:06               ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]             ` <<94e0230f-c396-4266-8ada-9816d8118946@default>
     [not found]               ` <<E1XxE8T-0002OE-U9@fencepost.gnu.org>
2014-12-06 16:44                 ` Drew Adams
2014-12-05 23:43           ` Juri Linkov
2014-12-06  3:20             ` Drew Adams

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