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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248558 Archived-At: > >>>> is it `multibyte-string-p` or `string-multibyte-p`, > >>>> `file-name-absolute-p` or `absolute-file-name-p`, ... ? > >>> Then "C-u C-h a WORDS..." is your friend. > >> > >> Nope, way too slow. I shouldn't have to do anything > >> more than `str-mul TAB`. > > > > In Icicles I type `C-h f str S-SPC mul', > > and I get these candidates (all from vanilla Emacs): > > > > article-strip-multiple-blank-lines (command) > > gnus-article-strip-multiple-blank-lines (command) > > gnus-multi-decode-encoded-word-string > > multibyte-string-p > > read-multilingual-string > > string-as-multibyte > > string-make-multibyte > > string-to-multibyte >=20 > Yes, and the fact that there are functions from gnus is a problem =E2=80= =94 the > user only wanted a function that handles strings, but there is no such > way to encode that in search with the current naming scheme. I was using Stefan's example of `str' and `mul'. Any way you look at it, those alone are not enough to exclude the gnus etc. stuff. But `str' and `tiby' give you: multibyte-string-p string-as-multibyte string-make-multibyte string-to-multibyte