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Location : parse_addr6(), p0f-client.c:67 X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::42e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247852 Archived-At: On 26.04.2020 19:56, Drew Adams wrote: > My suggestion would be to perform polls as > you described in the beginning, i.e., how it's > been done in the past. (See also below; this > could be enhanced.) I've already opined on downsides: everybody having to write the same thing again and again, closed-ness to the public (you or I can't read the actual replies), and in the event that a significant number of our users really choose to participate, it will result in a crapload of messages that a single person has little hope to sort out. And if every such poll will requires a special setup (configuration by the admins, etcetera), it will limit our ability to do them.