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From: "Clément Pit-Claudel" <cpitclaudel@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: custom-set-variables considered harmful
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 12:37:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bd730d9f-7e3d-1d36-05ab-68206aa29364@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvbmjsjgkv.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org>

On 2017-11-24 02:16, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> Is there a particular reson you're not using ‘customize-set-variable’
>> for all values?
> 
> Because I want the code to look as much as possible like "manually
> written Elisp", and `setq` is what is used in 99% of the Elisp
> customization code.

I think that's a bug, though — multiple packages of mine have specific code to deal with this (users using setq instead of customize-set-variable).

>> It would be more consistent, and also avoid problems
>> in case a package is changed and a setter function is added to
>> a variable which previously did not use it.
> 
> Note that as long as the `setq` is within the magical
> custom-autogenerated-user-settings form, it will behave correctly even
> if the variable has a setter function.

I like the direction of this patch very much, but I'm not a fan of this: it seems too error-prone.  It'd be much better if copying from the special form was safe (at least in the vast majority of cases).

> The difference will only affect
> those users who take this code and then copy it elsewhere.

But isn't one of the selling points of this patch to make copying easier?

Thanks,
Clément.



  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-24 17:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-04 17:10 custom-set-variables considered harmful Stefan Monnier
2017-11-06  9:02 ` Philippe Vaucher
2017-11-06 12:19   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-11-06 16:36   ` raman
2017-11-07 19:53     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-08 10:06 ` Vivek Dasmohapatra
2017-11-08 13:38   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-08 14:23     ` Vivek Dasmohapatra
2017-11-08 15:17       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-08 15:34         ` Vivek Dasmohapatra
2017-11-13 16:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-24  7:04   ` Elias Mårtenson
2017-11-24  7:16     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-24 17:37       ` Clément Pit-Claudel [this message]
2017-11-24 17:56         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-26 12:15       ` Elias Mårtenson
2017-11-26 16:30         ` Drew Adams
2017-11-28 14:12         ` Philippe Vaucher
2017-11-28 16:50           ` John Wiegley
2017-12-01  9:44             ` Philippe Vaucher
2017-11-29  3:36           ` Elias Mårtenson
2017-11-29 15:00             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-29 15:03               ` Drew Adams
2017-12-01 20:42                 ` Robert Weiner
2017-12-02  0:10                   ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-02  1:58                     ` Drew Adams
2017-12-02  5:56                 ` Teemu Likonen
2017-11-29 16:35               ` Elias Mårtenson
2017-11-29 19:57                 ` Scott Randby
2017-11-29 22:08                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-30  0:40                     ` Scott Randby
2017-12-01  9:51             ` Philippe Vaucher
2017-12-04 13:48   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-04 15:36     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-04 16:05     ` Robert Weiner
2017-12-04 23:50     ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-05  1:45       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-23 20:12 ` John Wiegley

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