From: "Clément Pit-Claudel" <cpitclaudel@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: custom-set-variables considered harmful
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 12:37:45 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bd730d9f-7e3d-1d36-05ab-68206aa29364@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvbmjsjgkv.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org>
On 2017-11-24 02:16, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> Is there a particular reson you're not using ‘customize-set-variable’
>> for all values?
>
> Because I want the code to look as much as possible like "manually
> written Elisp", and `setq` is what is used in 99% of the Elisp
> customization code.
I think that's a bug, though — multiple packages of mine have specific code to deal with this (users using setq instead of customize-set-variable).
>> It would be more consistent, and also avoid problems
>> in case a package is changed and a setter function is added to
>> a variable which previously did not use it.
>
> Note that as long as the `setq` is within the magical
> custom-autogenerated-user-settings form, it will behave correctly even
> if the variable has a setter function.
I like the direction of this patch very much, but I'm not a fan of this: it seems too error-prone. It'd be much better if copying from the special form was safe (at least in the vast majority of cases).
> The difference will only affect
> those users who take this code and then copy it elsewhere.
But isn't one of the selling points of this patch to make copying easier?
Thanks,
Clément.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-24 17:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-04 17:10 custom-set-variables considered harmful Stefan Monnier
2017-11-06 9:02 ` Philippe Vaucher
2017-11-06 12:19 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-11-06 16:36 ` raman
2017-11-07 19:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-08 10:06 ` Vivek Dasmohapatra
2017-11-08 13:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-08 14:23 ` Vivek Dasmohapatra
2017-11-08 15:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-08 15:34 ` Vivek Dasmohapatra
2017-11-13 16:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-24 7:04 ` Elias Mårtenson
2017-11-24 7:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-24 17:37 ` Clément Pit-Claudel [this message]
2017-11-24 17:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-26 12:15 ` Elias Mårtenson
2017-11-26 16:30 ` Drew Adams
2017-11-28 14:12 ` Philippe Vaucher
2017-11-28 16:50 ` John Wiegley
2017-12-01 9:44 ` Philippe Vaucher
2017-11-29 3:36 ` Elias Mårtenson
2017-11-29 15:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-29 15:03 ` Drew Adams
2017-12-01 20:42 ` Robert Weiner
2017-12-02 0:10 ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-02 1:58 ` Drew Adams
2017-12-02 5:56 ` Teemu Likonen
2017-11-29 16:35 ` Elias Mårtenson
2017-11-29 19:57 ` Scott Randby
2017-11-29 22:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-30 0:40 ` Scott Randby
2017-12-01 9:51 ` Philippe Vaucher
2017-12-04 13:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-04 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-04 16:05 ` Robert Weiner
2017-12-04 23:50 ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-05 1:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-23 20:12 ` John Wiegley
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