From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: ndame Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Write a new package" culture instead of patches? Date: Sun, 17 May 2020 19:43:54 +0000 Message-ID: References: <83tv0e9x14.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: ndame Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="102609"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun May 17 21:44:59 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jaPDX-000QZh-JY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 17 May 2020 21:44:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59926 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jaPDW-000284-Kf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 17 May 2020 15:44:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49218) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jaPCk-00014B-9A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2020 15:44:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-40132.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.132]:63576) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jaPCi-0006f6-Ap for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2020 15:44:09 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail; t=1589744645; bh=jzhRLpSvRX8Tawxqi51UxhTN6xb5HLjnlApRiq68Cw4=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=Q4Jrg0PvnB0Ydo94ZhVbo6+Zkc/LdpqWYsRWPGUnMTNE03bSyGAuitoQXBCTfHp1F I/Cjs9pAVDAy9YSsA9cSBKwQQsIy48/QXHmAS/t4ieeqv9MSdk6I9/oumoe+NxqCDA Z3w6LFcvObG4zFyza6rR3ovyvC+dolFIJNLUEs0s= In-Reply-To: <83tv0e9x14.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.40.132; envelope-from=ndame@protonmail.com; helo=mail-40132.protonmail.ch X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/17 15:44:05 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250657 Archived-At: > > But MELPA asks you to jump through a different set of hoops, which > seems to fly in the face of your theory. You mean setting up MELPA access? Users do that anyway, because many great = packages are only available there, so that hoop has to be jumped regardless= . > IME, many people who "solved the problem" want others to enjoy their > solution, and that is what gives them the incentive to "jump through > hoops". Sure. But the question was about those people who don't do that. And in the latter case others can still enjoy the solution easily via MELPA= . Those users who don't set up MELPA are a minority. So Emacs/ELPA should provide a good use case which MELPA can't provide. The= only thing I know is if there is no internet connection then packages are = available locally, but I don't know how typical that is.