From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Katsumi Yamaoka Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Default custom group Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:56:55 +0900 Organization: Emacsen advocacy group Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1116363509 4034 80.91.229.2 (17 May 2005 20:58:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 20:58:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 17 22:58:18 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DY96y-0005ws-QC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 May 2005 22:56:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DY99H-00058F-Cu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 May 2005 16:58:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DXqDx-0006Bb-5e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 May 2005 20:46:17 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DXjZc-0002Du-Dw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:40:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DXYgu-0005L1-LP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 May 2005 02:03:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [69.61.11.2] (helo=washington.hostforweb.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.34) id 1DXYie-0001nd-Bl; Mon, 16 May 2005 02:04:48 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by washington.hostforweb.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DXYb8-00040u-Gs; Mon, 16 May 2005 01:57:02 -0400 Original-To: rms@gnu.org X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`; Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu; B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:sd+bOrGkv0PHY5wCON7qivg58Q8= X-Hashcash: 1:20:050516:rms@gnu.org::xtfVZACf2nF8yYwF:000000AA2o X-Hashcash: 1:20:050516:emacs-devel@gnu.org::WqcPWqJyHfWa/G2i:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000001zgX X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - washington.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jpl.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:37190 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:37190 >>>>> In Richard Stallman wrote: > While cleaning up etc/NEWS I was reminded that the feature > if the default group in defcustom is new in this release. > I have never been happy with this default, and the best time > to change things is now, before we make a release with it. > So I just made the byte compiler warn whenever a custom definition > fails to specify a group. > At some time in the future we should make them get errors at > run time if they don't specify a group, but not right away. > This default feature was not documented in the Lisp Manual, > so I had no change to make there. I got many warnings when compiling Gnus. For instance: smime.el:123:1:Warning: defgroup for `smime' fails to specify containing group I think there might be customization groups which don't belong to any parent groups except `emacs'. Although it is possible to avoid warnings by adding the ``:group 'emacs'' parameters, I don't think it is useful especially for `defgroup'.