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[18.189.17.156]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e36sm2256528qtb.67.2017.06.02.16.55.18 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 02 Jun 2017 16:55:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-GB X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::236 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:215417 Archived-At: On 2017-06-02 19:46, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: > I agree, and I'm not suggesting that we impose a learning method to the reader. The manual is fully linked and referenced and as such is already fully "spiralable". That's not how I understood "in a spiral": I understood it as meaning that the current manual can be read front to back, and that it proceeds roughly in breadth-first order. Gathering related topic causes you to learn a lot about a particular topic before you learn anything about the next one.