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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.213, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256520 Archived-At: On 27.09.2020 05:45, Richard Stallman wrote: > > One would think that being told again and again, by various people > > including a current and former Emacs maintainer, that it is an > > unnecessary nuisance, would be such reason. > > Those are opinions, but they are not a rational reason. > These lines are important; to delete them would require > an important reason, and so far no one has shown me any reason, > only opinions. People have produced evidence that _nobody else_ except GNU shows these lines as prominently. Including major corporations with much higher budgets than FSF, who might have a lot more to fear/lose from being maliciously sued for "breach of warranty". Perhaps these lines were more important once, but if so, apparently the law standards and practice in this area have changed since.