From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Split `simple.el'? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:224340 Archived-At: > > I don't immediately > > understand why would it be a hot spot when looking for fonts. >=20 > I don't either. However, when I profiled it on Fedora 27 (a low-level > profile, with --enable-profiling) it was a hotspot. Although I am not > observing the same horrible slowdown that Drew is (that is, first > display of password-word-equivalents help is noticeably slower than for > typical variables but it is not *horribly* slow), I'm suspicious of > free_realized_fontsets, which is why I suggested that he comment it out. I have no way of commenting it out, AFAIK. It appears nowhere in the Emacs Lisp sources I have, and I don't build Emacs. > We should move password-word-equivalents to an i18n-related file anyway > (that is, regardless of Drew's problem), as password-word-equivalents > doesn't belong in simple.el. That would be great. It might not solve the real problem, but it would be helpful for at least some of us.