From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Modernize frame-title-format: "%b - GNU Emacs" Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 12:16:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <> <> <> <> <> <> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27942"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: cloos@jhcloos.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Alfred M. Szmidt" , Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 28 21:19:38 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kBjuS-00079L-8R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 21:19:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35904 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kBjuR-0003NK-AH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 15:19:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41760) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kBjtf-0002Yl-7P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 15:18:47 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp2120.oracle.com ([141.146.126.78]:58608) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kBjtd-0003Rd-2l; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 15:18:46 -0400 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (aserp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 07SIxxgl102780; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 19:18:43 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2020-01-29; bh=wEde6r04prJroZNlXNe3ym7OjIcJ1VPP3MFPXJwzfeU=; b=tiPNhGLLmD+CkwsqLo7oou12biGDnVJltT2IVoobE66RcwOcwzPV51X9r+8CLWK3iRES 6VmLIxJl9j05gkrjE+oqis74syEA4U/xmM80uUM/HPKUx5bDKsA9n8fhobcq/ArPOFY5 Cxua9C11G2UuRqOi/h5DtMZA1zgcrKaXcwTQeH7JVwhKG3qogChbRBkpLHuwskeV/wSL OSmYwKNC47tQ57rOzZH4AnsoJgFJuKtnMwf+ihw72Gj6HVsymcJgRtcYSNR77LN9JpeG JoRlVGXqB86cC6nteQurAkXs8W6+1DsmJw70FanMM5jb6t64x8BLr6+3et0RoprIvUXv 6A== Original-Received: from userp3030.oracle.com (userp3030.oracle.com [156.151.31.80]) by aserp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 333dbsdn6e-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 28 Aug 2020 19:18:43 +0000 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (userp3030.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp3030.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 07SJ1Uof069233; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 19:16:42 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by userp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 333r9pxh7f-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 28 Aug 2020 19:16:42 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0003.oracle.com (abhmp0003.oracle.com [141.146.116.9]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id 07SJGeqL018684; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 19:16:40 GMT In-Reply-To: <> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.5044.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9727 signatures=668679 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 adultscore=0 phishscore=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 spamscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 mlxscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2006250000 definitions=main-2008280139 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9727 signatures=668679 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 bulkscore=0 clxscore=1015 priorityscore=1501 impostorscore=0 phishscore=0 malwarescore=0 mlxlogscore=999 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 suspectscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2006250000 definitions=main-2008280139 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=141.146.126.78; envelope-from=drew.adams@oracle.com; helo=aserp2120.oracle.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/08/28 15:03:30 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -53 X-Spam_score: -5.4 X-Spam_bar: ----- X-Spam_report: (-5.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.959, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254360 Archived-At: > You are the first person to say that `invocation-name' is important to > keep. Would like to expand on the use-case you have in mind, and why > you think it is important to keep as the default? >=20 > I can think of one situation, when running multiple emacs:en of > different version. E.g, development versions or when you wish to run > an older or newer version. 1. `invocation-name' doesn't tell you anything about the Emacs version, AFAICT. 2. As Eli would presumably point out [*], users who have installed multiple Emacs versions are uncommon, and those of them who run more than one version at the same time are even more uncommon. (I'm one of them, FWIW.) 3. The discussion is about defining the _default_ frame-title format. Users can define the format any way they want. The default should work well for most users most of the time in most contexts. _____ [*]: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D42993#8