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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:307191 Archived-At: On 24/06/2023 10:06, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> It seems more like you are concerned about having an extra thing on your >> plate, which is totally reasonable. > Extra thing on our plate, yes. We had similar discussions about > smaller additions, like the tree-sitter grammars, for example. > Basically, anything that is a significant additional scope for Emacs > maintenance should IMO be scrutinized very thoroughly, precisely > because we have very limited resources. And this case is no > different. If I was making this choice, perhaps I'd make an emphasis on the port's usefulness. When accepting a significant body of code, whether it has one maintainer or several, we should generally be able to understand who are the users. Have the most recent version published on f-droid, then wait a few weeks and maybe have a poll somewhere on the mailing lists and/or reddit. Does f-droid have some private download stats? I couldn't find any, but they could be useful. What numbers to expect or require, though, I can't say. The flip side, of course, is that for an arbitrary package written in Lisp but not widely useful, we can still halfway-accept it by putting on [NonGNU] ELPA. No such option here.