From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Grave ethical problem in MELPA Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 08:36:18 +0300 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1470980200 9883 195.159.176.226 (12 Aug 2016 05:36:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 05:36:40 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:47.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/47.0 To: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 12 07:36:36 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bY591-0002QS-Oa for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2016 07:36:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51789 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bY58y-00047u-LC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2016 01:36:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54920) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bY58s-00047X-9Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2016 01:36:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bY58o-0005MD-5U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2016 01:36:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wm0-x22b.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::22b]:36378) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bY58n-0005M6-To; Fri, 12 Aug 2016 01:36:22 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wm0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id q128so8671308wma.1; Thu, 11 Aug 2016 22:36:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YVrk7To0SpBNEWW7gm0gIz1dfwh2Omolo4FafQdTmjY=; b=w+2i8/6vY/mCMwd4ngZDtIKi02o6MLZjEDnCrZDqndcNl4HW8CrIOiMint3pxU4W2U R+8zGnpR0A0GnpWAsWWvtfKS1xlFyTSPoJTCucftPCKkXMFqbJ5Lc6y6AlzCdROQVyPW OAIAAUbbRsJXkIOILMeU9M0lrxH+LOiLW47jPtnoCWrjC+TX6IMmgaHnlao7IzNpIF2J M92SqU0++PVa2GX5EqHc/2BrG2l5JcrTavsekcQfZWoJzGY+dzIJOkQ2ofHol0O6NLkn Mmn35pvmDxvbd/iMrKs3mSOsst7lgozFVVHHdUEEDnoSM0mIyhSFRW00APSR/fEKylYJ lvrw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YVrk7To0SpBNEWW7gm0gIz1dfwh2Omolo4FafQdTmjY=; b=NsOP6KEuFZnf5PC6NuF1ujSV+ssKwJZ/8YliiFFPvrtIH4uIvS2ofJg/o2fp7LZqUE b7AhDh9xFmHMok1lWau/ehPqJE1VmhoX4j99iMEtirszGD5FWhSQX9V1HPHI5UlH9KlO GlgwzriGpkMp0pQjzk0c8fM6SjwotdKb2JxhjEfWowynxMBEBXAmsQQqfHtm2OR+N2Tc olXIKsfyBYSCRAr3SujapIesPpQzxKAV2hYRxs5qOrYZdkWYLAMC8cqyBT3oNtbajXMn 0z5JhLmdosD5qvlqn5CyhSMLxeH+onxygifkTrElM7lfbBIBZqugGKj3nSiV86KkQYPx L4qw== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkooutW1ujPeot40Hg+s58imldAiuubwIEGmDj4S6c7bj/0EraoK0cCijhYidVj1odW7g== X-Received: by 10.46.5.201 with SMTP id 192mr2216562ljf.10.1470980180911; Thu, 11 Aug 2016 22:36:20 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.190] ([178.252.127.239]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id i80sm663572lfg.6.2016.08.11.22.36.19 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 11 Aug 2016 22:36:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c09::22b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:206580 Archived-At: On 08/12/2016 07:37 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > I'm told that the MELPA site requires nonfree software: This statement is untrue, and we've discussed this before on this list. > This is unethical and works directly against what we say. Does anyone > here know the site maintainers well enough to convince them to fix > this? They have an issue filed to have their site work with LibreJS: https://github.com/melpa/melpa/issues/3731 From reading the comments, they've contacted the LibreJS maintainer, and there had been some positive exchange. I don't know whether any problems remain, and why.