From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Split `simple.el'? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:224346 Archived-At: > > Maybe you mean a persistent cache on disk? >=20 > Yes, that's what I meant. But in any case, there's no point > discussing/considering it until the actual source of the problem is > precisely characterized, and since his problem shows up long before > those chars are actually displayed, I'm inclined to believe that his > problem might depend on local configuration and the like. IOW, for all > I know, it might not occur with `emacs -Q`. So we're far from having > characterized the problem precisely. In reply to John's question about `C-h h' times, I noted: > How long does that take for you? emacs -Q: 1 min 15 sec my setup: 1 min 30 sec But wrt visiting simple.el, where with my setup I see a slowdown (~2 minutes) even without going to the part of the file that has the problematic defcustom, with `emacs -Q' I do not see that same problem - there I see a slowdown only when trying to show the defcustom.