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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:233892 Archived-At: On 3/6/19 8:35 PM, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: > in most cases we shouldn't need to change the Elisp source code; all we need is for xgettext (or its equivalent) to consider the first argument of 'message' to be a translatable string. This is a standard feature of xgettext (see its --keyword argument). > Yes but... The first argument of message is often a lisp expression Of course; we are on the same page here. Most cases of 'message' should be fine, but there will often be exceptions that we do need to rewrite. These exceptions are not urgent: we can fix them as we find time. > ps: what is the proper way to reply to this list ? Keep everybody in Cc or remove the Cc and only keep the list address ? I typically just reply to whatever my email software defaults to. Occasionally I'll remove a Cc if I think that particular person probably won't care about my reply or I know the person is on a mailing list I'm already replying to; but this is optional and takes time and I typically don't bother.