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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:326998 Archived-At: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---1463811584-717424260-1735043780=:4328 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Mon, 23 Dec 2024, Yuan Fu wrote: >> On Dec 22, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Björn Bidar wrote: >> >> Yuan Fu writes: >> >>> Continuing from the tree-sitter maternity thread, I cooked up some >>> script to go over each builtin tree-sitter mode, clone the grammars it >>> uses, and check whether the font-lock queries are compatible with the >>> latest version of the grammar. If everything works fine, the script >>> adds some comment in the source file listing the version that was >>> checked. >> >> Oh that sounds very good. This could be a good workaround for the sort >> of fast and lose nature of tree-sitter. > > Great. Do you think the “verified version” comment will be helpful for packagers? It helps answer the question, “I am building a new Emacs release. Do I need to update these Tree-sitter parsers?”. However, as a parser packager, I also need to answer the question, “This parser has released a new version. Can I package it now, or do I need to wait for Emacs 30? Emacs 31?”. A static comment in the source code of a released version of Emacs will likely be too out-of-date to answer that. Other ideas: - Run these checks regularly (from https://emba.gnu.org/, perhaps?) for the most-recent Emacs release, outputting a report or webpage that can be referred to by packagers. - Include a function in Emacs that packagers can call themselves to check the compatibility of installed parsers. They could run this check every time they build an updated parser (either manually, as a part of the package build, or as a part of their distribution’s automated CI testing). -- Peter Oliver ---1463811584-717424260-1735043780=:4328--