From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sam Steingold Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [OT] Netiquette Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:43:01 -0400 Organization: disorganization Message-ID: References: <2E2BAEFF-FEAD-4616-87CD-3B77D2734256@alastairs-place.net> <19321565-3F93-4299-996F-8A2081C462AF@alastairs-place.net> <85bqsyfrhb.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <853beaf0c4.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <6C1D0482-9501-47E5-A79E-C40EF7B349A8@alastairs-place.net> <7BBA4171-6111-42FF-9293-0EF2D8E2E436@alastairs-place.net> <39FA2311-142B-41C9-BCC3-AF09D6B819FC@alastairs-place.net> <85wtbkc5ac.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <9F63F016-EB0C-4BD8-B359-D3E646800AF1@alastairs-place.net> Reply-To: sds@podval.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1150299858 24198 80.91.229.2 (14 Jun 2006 15:44:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 15:44:18 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 14 17:44:16 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FqXXI-0003zV-AR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 17:44:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FqXXH-0006lR-IE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:44:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FqXX5-0006l8-A8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:43:51 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FqXX4-0006kw-KF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:43:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FqXX4-0006kt-Hm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:43:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FqXgG-0002bC-Nb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:53:21 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FqXWo-0003si-JP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 17:43:35 +0200 Original-Received: from 209.213.205.130 ([209.213.205.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 17:43:34 +0200 Original-Received: from sds by 209.213.205.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 17:43:34 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 37 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.213.205.130 Mail-Copies-To: never X-Attribution: Sam X-Disclaimer: You should not expect anyone to agree with me. User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:9e0Mv5NUbwO2uQpS0ibI22rbnvY= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:55895 Archived-At: > * Alastair Houghton [2006-06-14 16:31:03 +0100]: > > On 14 Jun 2006, at 13:04, David Kastrup wrote: > >>>>> Anyway, to be clear, I'm really not interested in debating this >>>> Well, you started it to begin with. >>> No, I didn't. >> Yes, you did, > > I most certainly did not. All *I* did was complain that I didn't like > your remark; I didn't invite and don't care for a discussion on the > subject. this constitutes a start in the debate of netiquette, IMHO. FWIW, I agree that whatever people do reflects on their uniform (including e-mail domain), but I see nothing wrong in telling someone that the answer to his question is covered in the manual, except that I prefer to see a URL next to the note to RTFM. > At this point I'm thoroughly fed-up, so: > > 1. I won't be contributing to Emacs in future. Instead, I'll either > keep my changes to myself or I'll go back to XEmacs. > > 2. If I see *any* further email on this topic, I will withdraw my > current patch and won't be signing any copyright assignment forms. E- > mail about the patch itself is, of course, fine. I doubt that these kinds of threats will win you any friends here or elsewhere. -- Sam Steingold (http://www.podval.org/~sds) on Fedora Core release 5 (Bordeaux) http://jihadwatch.org http://iris.org.il http://mideasttruth.com http://truepeace.org http://thereligionofpeace.com http://palestinefacts.org Isn't "Microsoft Works" an advertisement lie?