From: Gregory Heytings via "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
To: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: ams@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Recentish C-s M-y change
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 09:23:34 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.NEB.2.22.394.2101041004001453.11772@sdf.lonestar.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1kvwPP-0002M1-38@fencepost.gnu.org>
>
> After some reflection, here's what I think the point is.
>
> isearch-mode-map is not like a prefix key's map. A control character
> which is undefined in isearch-mode-map is not a vacant space, not a
> place you can put some nice new feature and nobody will mind.
>
> The undefined control character is a useful convenience feature, which
> people use.
>
Thank you, now I understand what you mean. I don't use that feature
myself, but it's there and I can understand that people (and in particular
you) find it convenient.
>
> Except that with many control characters defined, it is hard to remember
> which ones are defined -- hard to be confident that a given control
> character is one that will exit the search for you.
>
Yes, but the only newly defined control character which makes Emacs in
2020 different from Emacs in 1985 is C-m / RET, bound to isearch-exit
around 1990. Previously C-m / RET terminated isearch and inserted a
newline; now C-m / RET only terminates isearch.
You defined C-g, C-q, C-r, C-s, C-w and C-y in 1985 (or perhaps earlier).
C-h has also been bound in the meantime, but you can still exit isearch
with C-h as you would have done it in 1985, for instance with C-h C-g, or
C-h f. IIUC the only difference is that C-h k now describes the key in
isearch-mode-map instead of the key in global-map.
Likewise, C-x has been bound in the meantime, to allow C-x 8 RET, but you
can still exit isearch with C-x as you would have done in 1985, for
instance with C-x C-f or C-x b.
Likewise, C-u has been bound in the meantime, to allow arguments to
subcommands, but again you can still exit isearch with C-u as you would
have done in 1985, for instance with C-u C-b or C-u C-n.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-01-04 9:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-12-28 1:09 Recentish C-s M-y change Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-28 8:45 ` Juri Linkov
2020-12-28 17:19 ` Juri Linkov
2020-12-28 17:30 ` Filipp Gunbin
2020-12-28 17:50 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-12-29 6:05 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-29 0:46 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-29 9:34 ` Juri Linkov
2020-12-29 17:25 ` Drew Adams
2020-12-30 4:57 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-30 5:26 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-31 15:28 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-01 7:21 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-01 9:15 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-02 5:35 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-02 9:03 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-02 9:27 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-02 11:55 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-03 5:58 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-04 0:04 ` Drew Adams
2021-01-05 6:28 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-05 16:30 ` Drew Adams
2021-01-06 5:14 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-06 9:41 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-08 6:17 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-04 9:23 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions. [this message]
2021-01-05 6:44 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-06 0:13 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-07 7:39 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-01 19:12 ` Drew Adams
2020-12-29 18:35 ` Filipp Gunbin
2020-12-29 19:20 ` Juri Linkov
2020-12-30 2:45 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-30 5:08 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-30 9:32 ` Juri Linkov
2020-12-30 10:08 ` Andreas Röhler
2020-12-30 11:13 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-30 15:12 ` Filipp Gunbin
2020-12-31 15:18 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-31 17:09 ` Filipp Gunbin
2020-12-31 19:09 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-04 17:50 ` Juri Linkov
2021-01-04 18:22 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-13 18:19 ` Juri Linkov
2021-01-13 19:34 ` Filipp Gunbin
2021-01-14 8:44 ` Juri Linkov
2021-01-14 15:34 ` Filipp Gunbin
2021-01-27 22:01 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-01-28 8:58 ` Juri Linkov
2021-01-30 5:54 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-30 10:12 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-02 5:36 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-30 10:42 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-01-30 18:37 ` Juri Linkov
2020-12-31 5:54 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-31 15:29 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-01 7:21 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-01 8:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-02 5:28 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-02 7:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-30 15:08 ` Filipp Gunbin
2020-12-30 17:32 ` Drew Adams
2020-12-31 5:54 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-31 10:44 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-12-31 11:18 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-31 11:29 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-01 10:53 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-01-01 11:14 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-01 12:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-01 12:41 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-12-31 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-31 15:42 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-12-31 16:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-01 7:20 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-31 15:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-12-31 15:29 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-30 15:05 ` Filipp Gunbin
2020-12-30 5:04 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-29 6:01 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-29 6:14 ` Drew Adams
2020-12-30 9:33 ` Juri Linkov
2020-12-31 5:54 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-29 5:56 ` Richard Stallman
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2020-12-31 17:18 ` Filipp Gunbin
2021-01-01 11:14 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-01 12:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-02 5:34 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-02 7:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-03 6:01 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-03 15:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-04 5:17 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-04 15:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-04 17:44 ` Juri Linkov
2021-01-04 18:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-04 18:22 ` Drew Adams
2021-01-03 6:01 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-03 15:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
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