From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Stop frames stealing eachothers' minibuffers! Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 22:23:17 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20201123160703.GB4635@ACM> <53833023-d959-07af-7611-aa2e0bdcc1bc@gmx.at> <0d14bfc4-8e8e-d3b9-e0e1-ee4bf2e6449d@gmx.at> <20201125210947.GB8228@ACM> <20201125215450.GC8228@ACM> Reply-To: Gregory Heytings Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28344"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Alpine 2.22 (NEB 394 2020-01-19) Cc: Andrii Kolomoiets , emacs-devel@gnu.org, martin rudalics , enometh@meer.net, Stefan Monnier , Eli Zaretskii To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 25 23:24:26 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ki3D7-0007If-Th for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2020 23:24:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51476 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ki3D6-0005ES-VW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2020 17:24:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46810) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ki3CI-0004OS-4p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2020 17:23:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:53645) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ki3CF-0001KN-Fu; Wed, 25 Nov 2020 17:23:33 -0500 Original-Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:ghe@faeroes.freeshell.org [205.166.94.9]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 0APMNLZ8029684 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Wed, 25 Nov 2020 22:23:21 GMT Original-Received: (from ghe@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) id 0APMNrKY012037; Wed, 25 Nov 2020 22:23:53 GMT In-Reply-To: <20201125215450.GC8228@ACM> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=205.166.94.24; envelope-from=ghe@sdf.org; helo=mx.sdf.org X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:259815 Archived-At: >>> The behaviour in Emacs 27 is chaotic. Sometimes a minibuffer moves >>> with a frame switch, sometimes it doesn't. >> >> I wouldn't write it is "chaotic". The behavior you consider "chaotic" >> is well-defined, and has been there since Emacs 21 at least: the >> minibuffer moves from frame F1 to frame F2 if and only if the >> minibuffer is active on frame F1 and a recursive minibuffer is entered >> on frame F2. > > I'm not sure what you mean by "is" in that sentence. > I've reread what I wrote five times, and I don't understand the question ;-) >> There are other possible behaviors of course, but IMO the current one >> is a reasonable one. > > If a recursive minibuffer operation has been carried out, then the > minibuffer moves, if it hasn't it doesn't. That means Emacs has some > invisible internal state, something which doesn't seem desirable. > What do you mean? By definition a recursive minibuffer is entered when a minibuffer has been entered and not yet left, that is, when the operation has not yet been completed. After typing C-x C-f in frame F1 and M-: in frame F2, the two minibuffers have been moved to frame F2.