From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 09:07:03 +0000 Message-ID: References: <4be18b5f-dc07-2703-a2de-1ed08916ebdf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Gregory Heytings Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30593"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Alpine 2.22 (NEB 394 2020-01-19) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Nicola Manca Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 17 11:07:58 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kIptW-0007sM-2r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 11:07:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51664 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIptU-0004HT-W6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 05:07:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43756) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIpsr-0003qk-7Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 05:07:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:56681) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIpso-0003JV-Qx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 05:07:16 -0400 Original-Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:ghe@faeroes.freeshell.org [205.166.94.9]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 08H976Nl013612 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Thu, 17 Sep 2020 09:07:06 GMT Original-Received: (from ghe@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) id 08H97JDb005902; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 09:07:19 GMT In-Reply-To: <4be18b5f-dc07-2703-a2de-1ed08916ebdf@gmail.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=205.166.94.24; envelope-from=ghe@sdf.org; helo=mx.sdf.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/17 05:07:09 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = ??? X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255972 Archived-At: Hi Nicola, Thanks for your proposal! > > What about having a startup screen, opening only if no .emacs or other > user configuration file is found just saying (the text is just an > example): > > Welcome! > This is the first time you run Emacs, please choose how to proceed: > > [] Go Vanilla! > (standard defaults, no customizations) > > [] Start Configuration Wizard > (set-up your .emacs configuration file interactively) > > [] Try Emacs in enhanced-mode > (run with a predefined configuration showing emacs potential) > That's a very good suggestion, thank you! I think it would be better to invert options 2 et 3, with something like: [] Go Vanilla! [] Choose a predefined configuration [] Create your own configuration Option 2 would present the user with a list of predefined configuration sets: "doom", "quake", "vscode", ... Option 3 would give the user a way to create a more refined configuration. > > This solution would prevent the problem of passing --modern to the emacs > exacutable and, beyond that, it could also correspond to emacs -Q, since > choosing "Vanilla" would result in a normal clean startup. > IMO this screen should be skipped when the option -Q or -q is passed to Emacs.