From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A modern-mode? Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 20:48:26 +0000 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Gregory Heytings Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24900"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Alpine 2.22 (NEB 394 2020-01-19) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andrea Corallo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 15 22:49:32 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kIHtL-0006N1-Ha for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 22:49:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57008 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIHtK-0001sK-Hx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 16:49:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38016) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIHsQ-000116-EQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 16:48:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:55196) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIHsO-0005us-BL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 16:48:34 -0400 Original-Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:ghe@faeroes.freeshell.org [205.166.94.9]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 08FKmSrY016235 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Tue, 15 Sep 2020 20:48:29 GMT Original-Received: (from ghe@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) id 08FKmfJp009087; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 20:48:41 GMT In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=205.166.94.24; envelope-from=ghe@sdf.org; helo=mx.sdf.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/15 12:47:44 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = ??? X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255795 Archived-At: > > If (as suggested) the modern-mode becomes a modern-theme this is > effectively like a new set of defaults that can be easily toggled, and > if the user wants later on refined and re-configured. > I see what you mean, but I do not see how this would help newcomers. It would be one set of defaults, and many will come with another set of defaults that they would also like to call "modern-mode" (or "postmodern-mode" or "futuristic-mode" or "postfuturistic-mode" or ...). This would result in the long term in a large set of "profiles", each with a number of unrelated defaults modified, in which a new user would be lost.