From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Interactive guide for new users Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 12:12:08 +0000 Message-ID: References: <875z8ortot.fsf@gkayaalp.com> <83lfhjkq0r.fsf@gnu.org> <8620B5CD-CA92-46BF-80A8-DBE7052F4CA6@gmail.com> <83d02re2uk.fsf@gnu.org> <87blibtfzu.fsf@gkayaalp.com> Reply-To: Gregory Heytings Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="-212064758-2033248214-1599912476=:7718" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39812"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Alpine 2.22 (NEB 394 2020-01-19) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, casouri@gmail.com To: =?UTF-8?Q?G=C3=B6ktu=C4=9F_Kayaalp?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 12 14:13:16 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kH4P6-000AHW-PO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 14:13:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47386 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kH4P5-0005EN-Rz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 08:13:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60736) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kH4OP-0004Pi-EC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 08:12:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:60589) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kH4ON-0004YH-4T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 08:12:33 -0400 Original-Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:ghe@faeroes.freeshell.org [205.166.94.9]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 08CCCB8H024082 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Sat, 12 Sep 2020 12:12:11 GMT Original-Received: (from ghe@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) id 08CCCNWh009898; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 12:12:23 GMT In-Reply-To: <87blibtfzu.fsf@gkayaalp.com> Content-ID: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=205.166.94.24; envelope-from=ghe@sdf.org; helo=mx.sdf.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/12 05:31:13 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = ??? X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255316 Archived-At: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---212064758-2033248214-1599912476=:7718 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-ID: >>> SCREEN 2: "Set the color theme", with a clickable list containing the= =20 >>> (currently) 16 built-in themes. A short code snippet above that list= =20 >>> illustrates how code is displayed with each of these themes. >> >> The snippet will only be able to show the buffer text appearance. For= =20 >> other UI elements you will need an image. Would using an image be=20 >> better here? > > This probably wouldn=A2t work on terminal Emacs. For a more univarsally= =20 > apllicable, you could have a single snippet, and picking a theme just=20 > sets it globally. A confirm button at bottom saves the preference using= =20 > customize and advances. > Indeed I admit I did not think about terminal Emacs. The guided tour=20 should probably also be skipped if Emacs is executed in a terminal. >>> You can use M-x initial-greeting at any time to go through this=20 >>> configuration again. >> >> That command should be on the Help menu. And I think the name should=20 >> be 'introduction-to-emacs' or somesuch. > > AFAIU it=A2s customary in the industry these days to call these=20 > walkthrough wizards "Guided Tours". That might be a more recognisable=20 > name. =A1initial-greeting=A2 and =A1introduction-to-emacs=A2 sound rathe= r=20 > non-interactive to me, i.e. I=A2d expect to be reading stuff, deducing=20 > from the names. > I think I would also prefer guided-tour, but OTOH that name is not very=20 important if it is executed automatically when Emacs starts. ---212064758-2033248214-1599912476=:7718--