From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2020 09:37:42 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20200906133719.cu6yaldvenxubcqq.ref@Ergus> <20200906133719.cu6yaldvenxubcqq@Ergus> <83lfhnnew7.fsf@gnu.org> <20200906163418.3p2wuygb4osm76wa@Ergus> <20200906203807.u237c3h22oxwtmba@Ergus> <87wo16c77t.fsf@elephly.net> Reply-To: Gregory Heytings Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="-212064758-168732294-1599470228=:365" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9718"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Alpine 2.22 (NEB 394 2020-01-19) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ricardo Wurmus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 07 11:39:05 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kFDc9-0002O2-NC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 11:39:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39886 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFDc8-0006ec-QB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 05:39:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38382) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFDaz-0005Pv-Jz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 05:37:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:50108) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFDax-0004zl-5M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 05:37:53 -0400 Original-Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:ghe@faeroes.freeshell.org [205.166.94.9]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 0879biCB016277 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Mon, 7 Sep 2020 09:37:44 GMT Original-Received: (from ghe@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) id 0879btkU024341; Mon, 7 Sep 2020 09:37:55 GMT In-Reply-To: <87wo16c77t.fsf@elephly.net> Content-ID: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=205.166.94.24; envelope-from=ghe@sdf.org; helo=mx.sdf.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/07 02:54:46 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = ??? X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254620 Archived-At: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---212064758-168732294-1599470228=:365 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-ID: > >> I'd like to see some of these studies. "Dark mode" goes against what=20 >> so many people have been doing for centuries (think of books for=20 >> example) that I'm really curious to see why they were wrong. > > https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-28904-x > > =E2=80=9CWe found that reading dark text on bright background reduces ch= oroidal=20 > thickness in one hour, while reading bright text on dark background=20 > increases the thickness of the choroid. Since choroidal thickness=20 > changes are precursors for future changes in eye growth, we expect that= =20 > there will be selective effects on subsequent myopia development.=E2=80= =9D > Okay, so according to these authors, in essence "light mode" might perhaps= =20 in the long term lead to more myopia. There is no causal relation, they=20 only "expect" something, and their expectation might very well be what is= =20 known as a "cum hoc ergo propter hoc" fallacy. In short, that's already=20 an interesting indication, but I'll wait to see (much) more studies like=20 this before being convinced. ---212064758-168732294-1599470228=:365--