From: Michelangelo Rodriguez <michelangelo.rodriguez@gmail.com>
To: emacs devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Package proposal: greader, an audio emacs reader for blind and dislexic people
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 07:04:43 +0100 (CET) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1901310659430.4722@mugno.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <965f7e5c3c7be56ae4c6141eabe13d8a@webmail.orcon.net.nz>
Where i can find information about how to adere at the gnu standards?i'm
sorry for my perhaps trivial question, but i'm newbie in emacs development
and, at the same time, i want to start to contribute to the community. in
a consistent way.
Thanks in advance.
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019, Phil Sainty wrote:
> On 2019-01-31 16:13, Tim Cross wrote:
>> The thing about GNU ELPA is that all the packages in there are
>> actively maintained and kept up to date with current version of Emacs.
>> The mor packages in there, the more work is required to release new
>> versions of Emacs.
>
> I don't believe that's the case at all.
>
> GNU ELPA packages are not part of core Emacs, and anyone can contribute
> them (within the FSF rules). If new Emacs releases might be held back
> on account of any arbitrary ELPA package not working, this is the first
> I've heard of it. Maybe certain packages which are considered
> particularly important might have such status in effect, and obviously
> if bugs are reported against ELPA packages then they could be fixed,
> but I don't think adding ELPA packages increases the amount of work
> required to release new versions of Emacs?
>
> After all, one of the acknowledged advantages of ELPA packages is that
> they can be updated outside of Emacs release cycles, so it is *less*
> important that ELPA bugs be fixed prior to an Emacs release, because
> they can be fixed afterwards without the need of another Emacs release.
>
>
>> IMO the GNU ELPA repository is really for packages that represent
>> core Emacs functionality. For non-core things, we have MELPA, which
>> sounds like a better fit for this package.
>
> Definitely not true. GNU ELPA and MELPA are simply two instances of
> package archives. There are plenty of packages in GNU ELPA which are
> nothing like "core" functionality, and plenty of packages in MELPA
> that I wish had been contributed to either GNU ELPA or Emacs core.
> It's not the case that the two archives were established for the
> purposes you've described. The only distinction I draw between them
> is that one requires contributors to follow the FSF rules, and the
> other does not.
>
>
>> Regardless, I think the better approach is to first develop and
>> release the package in MELPA. If it becomes popular and the community
>> believes it would be a good fit for GNU ELPA, it can be moved over to
>> that repository.
>
> That can be a recipe for failure. Too many packages get contributed
> to MELPA, get popular, and then *can't* be "moved over" to GNU ELPA
> because the author wasn't taking care of the copyright issue while it
> was on MELPA, and suddenly finds that they've accepted code contributions
> into their package which are blocking that move. The more popular the
> package becomes, the more likely that situation is to occur. It's
> better to start in GNU ELPA and ensure that this problem is avoided
> from the outset.
>
> (There's a LOT of good elisp out there which would benefit Emacs core,
> but which will never do so because by the time it was "good enough" for
> that to happen, it was also completely impractical to assign the copyright
> to the FSF.)
>
>
> -Phil
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-01-31 6:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-01-29 9:14 Package proposal: greader, an audio emacs reader for blind and dislexic people Michelangelo Rodriguez
2019-01-29 21:14 ` Tim Cross
2019-01-30 7:08 ` Michelangelo Rodriguez
2019-01-30 21:31 ` Tim Cross
2019-01-30 22:09 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-01-31 0:54 ` Tim Cross
2019-01-31 2:06 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-01-31 3:13 ` Tim Cross
2019-01-31 4:08 ` Phil Sainty
2019-01-31 6:04 ` Michelangelo Rodriguez [this message]
2019-01-31 7:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-31 22:32 ` Tim Cross
2019-01-31 5:54 ` Michelangelo Rodriguez
2019-01-31 21:36 ` Tim Cross
2019-02-01 4:47 ` Michelangelo Rodriguez
2019-02-01 6:29 ` Michelangelo Rodriguez
2019-02-04 23:03 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-02-04 23:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-02-06 6:59 ` Richard Stallman
2019-02-04 23:22 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-02-05 5:18 ` Michelangelo Rodriguez
2019-02-02 3:22 ` Richard Stallman
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