From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tino Calancha Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Dired: Improve symmetry in mark/unmark commands bound to keys Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 04:49:05 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: References: <877fa12iyq.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <83h995ay04.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1474746629 25417 195.159.176.226 (24 Sep 2016 19:50:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 19:50:29 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Andreas Schwab , tino.calancha@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 24 21:50:24 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bnsxs-0005zu-5U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 21:50:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35396 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bnsxq-0007AH-HD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 15:50:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36061) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bnsxk-00079H-Il for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 15:50:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bnsxi-0001Nh-J1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 15:50:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pf0-f169.google.com ([209.85.192.169]:34976) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bnsxd-0001Gw-J7; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 15:50:09 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pf0-f169.google.com with SMTP id s13so18026862pfd.2; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 12:50:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:date:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references :user-agent:mime-version; bh=MEp3g2/Opslt25UIT2IYKCMPieBNe0QAK0n32T6d0mQ=; b=wzwbn90njiwVRPltfPa+2Y7kB9+0uj0NsqNKFgtJTKvlETHVbTr1eU8wjFU1cOWc3T LmTZBIH/lsMHlJ7M4bP7MEg6AF+I2dkS0i1ZR0H1JQHIZDKDoVutiwc20seph0F5DmwQ ry0k2sM3zMo9zu+lVHA7tqrlzEhrIYDgRk5yQka8vMUc78oVIs4CgNFX5jXj9RxqTmd6 XiII8qkb9WkBlaYsHXvIuRq/mnUapWEdGgVrxI459mkRk45mng46RAb3BU6oCSuFvMIp kPQOAQNxbdSZtObCHHwpeQ6oEL/YVC7eOyRrO2CQ6XvV+QO1lLbOOKgFGIFrj+B7wo2B rMhA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:date:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id :references:user-agent:mime-version; bh=MEp3g2/Opslt25UIT2IYKCMPieBNe0QAK0n32T6d0mQ=; b=mjcrH5aR3a2YLKZIG4RpCrdQNG0p6m2cWpFqgcD9pvWX5FXasCdxfENsTotFdML7AZ Vj9dvvm1VlQNpU+6X3OXXpXg9MH6ebGWpF/gWUQ7Uk72Rl0uc3kDKb2jPAX3ukRn0FUW vl4P9LuMkGZLqhUkaa5mbEgZAC0vrWWIK5wrj7QcOoaNEx0p87RlnzlgMOrnQy+MiL1U 9MBSLkztOlQBEVJhwJweaao9Amru/DQKijUMjtaxz20H4ts9kqDFJyGiTw0mJvohdbdl OlNKCB6+aiTUEFeoUV0DhwGKJVcfhub+8JwhHDfI66kUL9LUNiP8UQOBNW+vIA9lVgRf Yk7Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwMaodj1kSDeMC4UAJDp80n6MfDARsG5pP+mA0OkU4r8YNyg+TFsA6myZFs6NUB9XA== X-Received: by 10.98.37.130 with SMTP id l124mr23949504pfl.60.1474746548827; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 12:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from calancha-pc (57.92.100.220.dy.bbexcite.jp. [220.100.92.57]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n7sm20274909pfg.45.2016.09.24.12.49.06 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 24 Sep 2016 12:49:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: Tino Calancha X-X-Sender: calancha@calancha-pc In-Reply-To: <83h995ay04.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.192.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:207765 Archived-At: On Sat, 24 Sep 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Andreas Schwab >> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 21:31:09 +0200 >> Cc: Emacs developers >> >> There is no need for dired-mark-or-unmark-extension, >> dired-mark-extension should to that already. Since the prefix argument >> has always been useless it is ok to change its meaning, and make it >> consistent with all other dired commands. > > I disagree and object to such a change. I try to be objective and look at this regardless of my wish. Then, i cannot see the rationale about what makes special marking by extension. Why should '* .' prompt for a marker-char (the only guy doing so) but similar ones as '* @', '* /', or even '% m' should not? The code is talking us, let's hear what is saying. It should be obvious. I would be proud on you if you could reconsider your opinion in case several people here suggest you the opposite. It would be wise.