From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: jari.aalto@poboxes.com (Jari Aalto+mail.emacs) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggestion: Mapping of M-g should be goto-line Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 19:02:16 +0200 Organization: Private Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <861xnhfee8.fsf@avet.kvota.net> <86brmldvbd.fsf@avet.kvota.net> <20040327001641.GD26429@fencepost> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1080492746 29462 80.91.224.253 (28 Mar 2004 16:52:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 16:52:26 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 28 18:52:19 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B7dWF-0001wC-00 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2004 18:52:19 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B7dWF-00089a-00 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2004 18:52:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B7dVC-0007gC-Ud for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 28 Mar 2004 11:51:14 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1B7dUk-0007eV-3f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Mar 2004 11:50:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1B7dUE-0007YY-AI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Mar 2004 11:50:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.91.224.249] (helo=main.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B7dUD-0007YR-Jc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Mar 2004 11:50:13 -0500 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B7dUC-00049v-00 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2004 18:50:12 +0200 Original-Received: from a110t7.elisa.omakaista.fi ([81.197.3.110]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2004 18:50:12 +0200 Original-Received: from jari.aalto by a110t7.elisa.omakaista.fi with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2004 18:50:12 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 32 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: a110t7.elisa.omakaista.fi User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3 (windows-nt) (i386-msvc-nt5.0.2195) Cancel-Lock: sha1:U1YwouVX+2KTLXCOE5743ERCBGI= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:21021 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:21021 * Fri 2004-03-26 Miles Bader gnu.org> gmane.emacs.devel * | On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 10:29:08PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: | | > > Really, if there are any more C-c C- C- C- key combinations, my hand | > > will retire soon. The first proposal of "C-c c" prefix is much more | > > friendly to wrists. | > | > I can't remember any such proposal, and it would not go through, | > anyway, since C-c letter combinations are reserved for the user. | | In any case Jari's comment seems just plainly wrong -- it's _much_ easier to | type multiple keystroke bindings if all keys in the sequence use the same | modifier: e.g., to type C-c C-c C-c, just (1) hold down the the control key | with one finger, and (2) hit `c' three times with the other finger. This assumes, that one indeed uses two hand on keyboard. I use left hand on keyboard and right hand on mouse almost 90 % of the time. I have found it more efficient and faster. In cases, where it's impossible to reach keys with left hand I have to shift both hands to keyboard. So, which one is "easier" depends how one uses it. To throw another perspective, think about disabled persons which may not have good hand coordination or strength. Keeping keys down is harder that using non-modifier keys: C-c c c vs. C-c C-c C-c Jari