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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273874 Archived-At: On 04.09.2021 14:37, Daniel Fleischer wrote: > Dmitry Gutov [2021-09-04 Sat 13:59] wrote: > >> global-visual-line-mode seems questionable as well -- I don't remember seeing this kind of behavior in other coding >> editors, which seems to be the aim of this profile. At least not by default. > Now it really depends on who we compare with; if we go with the > "programmers" profile then one can compare with Vim, VScode and Sublime > Text. The first two do not wrap and the last one does. Any other > editor we should examine for deaults? Now that I looked, Sublime does have the option to Word Wrap, but it seems to be unchecked by default? Another popular option is Intellij IDEA (no word-wrap by default either, as far as I can see). Neither does Atom. There are also Eclipse and Netbeans, and some others, but AFAIK VS Code and IDEA hold the popularity crown these days. visual-line-mode also has a side-effect of having "simple editing commands to act on visual lines" instead of logical ones, so that kill-line only kills a part of the line. I couldn't find whether Sublime has any similar commands where we could compare the effect.