From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-l while in menu? Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:15:38 +0200 (CEST) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <3CC68F57.4060901@666.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1019647103 1198 127.0.0.1 (24 Apr 2002 11:18:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:18:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 170Kn1-0000JD-00 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:18:23 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 170Kof-0000DX-00 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:20:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 170Kmu-00041s-00; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:18:16 -0400 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net ([217.13.230.178] helo=yxa.extundo.com) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 170KkQ-0003tv-00 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:15:42 -0400 Original-Received: from yxa.extundo.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g3OBFcKg032338; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:15:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (jas@localhost) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.2/8.12.1/Submit) with ESMTP id g3OBFc5H032335; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:15:38 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: yxa.extundo.com: jas owned process doing -bs Original-To: Ben Wing In-Reply-To: <3CC68F57.4060901@666.com> Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:3176 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:3176 [ To/Cc reduced to not spam the entire emacs world ] On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Ben Wing wrote: > >People will probably only expect accelerators to work if, e.g., the F in > >File was underlined. > > In XEmacs, they are. Yes, but menu accelerators doesn't seem to work by default in XEmacs [undex unix]. IMHO the F should only be underlined if it is possible to press Alt-F to open the File menu. Having a underlined F in the menu and Alt-F doing something different (as in XEmacs) is worse than not having a underlined F or menu accelerators at all (as in Emacs) IMHO. Using M-S-f to open the File menu seems like a bad idea, as it is a step =away= from modern UI behaviour.