From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Terje Bless Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The minibuffer vs. Dialog Boxes (Re: Making XEmacs be more up-to-date) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 01:23:52 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1019607176 15723 127.0.0.1 (24 Apr 2002 00:12:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 00:12:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-design@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 170AP2-00045U-00 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 02:12:56 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 170AQR-00024J-00 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 02:14:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 170AOg-0005Md-00; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 20:12:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.wavelan.no ([217.144.228.111] helo=isa) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 170AMt-0005G7-00 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 20:10:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [217.144.228.69] by isa (ArGoSoft Mail Server Pro for WinNT/2000/XP, Version 1.8 (1.8.1.1)); Wed, 24 Apr 2002 02:12:57 +0200 Original-To: Kai =?iso-8859-1?Q?Gro=FEjohann?= X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Mailsmith Prerelease (Blindsider) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:3144 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:3144 Kai Gro=FEjohann wrote: >"Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > >>>>>>>"Terje" =3D=3D Terje Bless writes: >> >>Terje> Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> >>>>If you refuse to learn, >> >>Many of the XEmacs developers who sympathize far more with you than he >>does (or, to be honest, me) are being silent for various reasons. > >I think Eli is sympathizing with Terje. Does "refuse" perhaps convey a >stronger meaning to a native English speaker than I thought at first? > >For me, Eli was simply saying: if you don't want to learn, you might be >missing something. (I hope that "don't want" is less strong than >"refuse", so that my point comes across.) The connotations of the word "refuse" is probably what's causing the confusion, yes. And it was, to be fair, me that used the word. cf. my other message here.