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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:267654 Archived-At: On 08.04.2021 21:48, Drew Adams wrote: > There can be_lots_ of info that's part of a full > candidate which we do_not_ expose in the UI, so > users don't necessarily see a difference in > *Completions*. If the users can't make a conscious choice between two completions based on info available to them, such completions shouldn't both be present in the completion results at the same time. > We can nevertheless make any such info visible in > other ways, e.g. on demand. Any such attributes can be accounted for the duplicates-removing logic. If they aren't visible in *Completions* by default, that doesn't seem like great UX, though.