From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: i18n/l10n summary Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2017 11:37:46 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: References: <3931675f-e26c-2f14-b229-61f518816fff@cs.ucla.edu> <0aec575b-6cbe-bc87-2d54-7de95be5c080@cs.ucla.edu> <83y3t7aei1.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1496601479 6937 195.159.176.226 (4 Jun 2017 18:37:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2017 18:37:59 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.1 Cc: p.stephani2@gmail.com, jean.christophe.helary@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 04 20:37:55 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dHaPS-0001Tr-Ol for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2017 20:37:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58188 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dHaPY-0002il-9Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2017 14:38:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36331) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dHaPS-0002if-3J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2017 14:37:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dHaPR-0008Kb-7x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2017 14:37:54 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:58164) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dHaPN-0008Jj-H3; Sun, 04 Jun 2017 14:37:49 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968D51600E3; Sun, 4 Jun 2017 11:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id 0wZgKtLf0BTw; Sun, 4 Jun 2017 11:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B4B1600E4; Sun, 4 Jun 2017 11:37:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id V_muyr88TAUs; Sun, 4 Jun 2017 11:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (unknown [47.153.188.248]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B011F1600E3; Sun, 4 Jun 2017 11:37:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83y3t7aei1.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:215445 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Would it make sense to start collecting all those benchmarks, e.g. > somewhere under test/, so that in due time we will have a sound > body of code I wouldn't collect microbenchmarks just for the sake of collecting them. = They're=20 flaky, and the overhead of collecting them and maintaining the collection= is=20 likely greater than any future benefit of having them around. If we want = to have=20 a performance testsuite our main problem is building and supporting its=20 infrastructure, not coming up with examples. If you're interested despite the above disclaimer, here's what I used: (defun bench-with (n) (let ((start (float-time (get-internal-run-time))) (i 0)) (while (< i n) (format "%d %s %c" 3 "def" ?=E2=80=98) (setq i (1+ i))) (- (float-time (get-internal-run-time)) start))) (defun bench-without (n) (let ((start (float-time (get-internal-run-time))) (i 0)) (while (< i n) (setq i (1+ i))) (- (float-time (get-internal-run-time)) start))) (defun bench (n) (- (bench-with n) (bench-without n)))