From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Toomim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The minibuffer vs. Dialog Boxes (Re: Making XEmacs be more up-to-date) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 12:40:03 -0700 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1019418145 14740 127.0.0.1 (21 Apr 2002 19:42:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 19:42:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Terje Bless , Eli Zaretskii , jas@extundo.com, bradym@balestra.org, xemacs-design@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16zNE9-0003pd-00 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2002 21:42:25 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16zNEV-0006hD-00 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2002 21:42:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16zNDw-0002Pg-00; Sun, 21 Apr 2002 15:42:12 -0400 Original-Received: from front2.mail.megapathdsl.net ([66.80.60.30]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16zNBo-0002Jj-00 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2002 15:40:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [216.36.77.18] (HELO cheeseskin) by front2.mail.megapathdsl.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.8) with ESMTP id 27256595; Sun, 21 Apr 2002 12:33:56 -0700 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=cs.berkeley.edu ident=toomim) by cheeseskin with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 16zNBs-0000KO-00; Sun, 21 Apr 2002 12:40:04 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/20020412 Debian/0.9.9-6 X-Accept-Language: en Original-To: Hrvoje Niksic Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:2957 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:2957 Hrvoje Niksic wrote: > Then keep using the menus and ignore my suggestions. I merely tried > to help. I don't think that Terje meant to offend anyone. He noticed that the Emacs developers were discussing the problems that new users have with the UI, and that the developers would like to know what specific problems new users actually have. So he offered his two cents of real-world experience. If the devlopers aren't interested in knowing why so many programmers these days are staying away from Emacs, then keep the UI problems and ignore Terje's suggestions. He merely tried to help.