From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Terje Bless Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The minibuffer vs. Dialog Boxes (Re: Making XEmacs be more up-to-date) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 02:04:21 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <15553.49507.745094.604981@ice.wonderworks.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1019351908 21585 127.0.0.1 (21 Apr 2002 01:18:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 01:18:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Michael Toomim , Eli Zaretskii , bradym@balestra.org, xemacs-design@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16z5zo-0005c2-00 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2002 03:18:28 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16z5zn-0005mq-00 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2002 03:18:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16z5ze-0005ZS-00; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 21:18:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.wavelan.no ([217.144.228.111] helo=isa) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16z5wU-0005Oz-00 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 21:15:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [217.144.228.69] by isa (ArGoSoft Mail Server Pro for WinNT/2000/XP, Version 1.8 (1.8.1.1)); Sun, 21 Apr 2002 03:17:25 +0200 Original-To: Kyle Jones X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <15553.49507.745094.604981@ice.wonderworks.com> X-Mailer: Mailsmith Prerelease (Blindsider) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:2892 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:2892 Kyle Jones wrote: >Michael Toomim writes: > >>If XEmacs is to be designed to be more easily usable by newbies, the >>terminology should change along with the interface. > >What about the confusion this will cause with existing users? This >sounds to me like changing Emacs for the sake of those who don't like or >support it to the detriment of those who do like and support it, and >that is just perverse. Yes. That would be a singularily bad idea. The point shouldn't be to "make newbies feel at home", but rather to make it _better_. For everyone. The novices are who would benefit the most from it, but certainly not the only group. -- "Frailty, thy name is woman!" - Hamlet, Prince of Denmark. See Project Gutenberg for more.