From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andy Piper Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The minibuffer vs. Dialog Boxes (Re: Making XEmacs be more up-to-date) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 09:55:17 -0700 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020417123512.0398e4c8@san-francisco.beasys.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20020417123512.0398e4c8@san-francisco.beasys.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1019242106 3857 127.0.0.1 (19 Apr 2002 18:48:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 18:48:26 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16ydQo-000106-00 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 20:48:26 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16ydkH-00078J-00 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 21:08:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16ybhA-0002aZ-00; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 12:57:12 -0400 Original-Received: from ext007579.bea.com ([63.96.164.130] helo=usmailrelay.beasys.com) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16ybeQ-0002Bt-00 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 12:54:22 -0400 Original-Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id g3JGsKt23477; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 09:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from shalom.bea.com ([192.168.11.33]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA00632; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 09:54:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Original-To: Per Abrahamsen , xemacs-design@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:2802 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:2802 At 01:40 PM 4/19/02 +0200, Per Abrahamsen wrote: >Dialog boxes are so 1980's. Well so is Windows, but the advantage is that everyone knows how it works - you can get up to speed quickly on an application because everything works the way you expect. I'm not saying dialog boxes aren't clumsy, inefficient etc, etc - but for a bunch of users its what they expect. So it seems to me the principle of least surprise applies here. Not that your points about making the minibuffer more accessible aren't good ones. I think the minibuffer is one of emacs' greatest strengths. amdu