From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: forward-comment and syntax-ppss Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 15:16:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: References: << <83fd1db0-7362-6117-c5cd-715398c0dea4@gmail.com> <20161207220447.GA4503@acm.fritz.box> <20161208201517.GB3120@acm.fritz.box> <20161209190747.GC2203@acm.fritz.box> <5a70902f-882e-f616-74b2-df6eb81fc70c@yandex.ru> <20161211101715.GA14084@acm.fritz.box> <51c0554f-40d0-37a5-b134-17058343aa3f@yandex.ru> > <<83oa0c8f7r.fsf@gnu.org>> > <<8337hn8u81.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1481930349 31013 195.159.176.226 (16 Dec 2016 23:19:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 23:19:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 17 00:19:05 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cI1mL-0007Qe-7n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 00:19:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34675 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cI1mP-0006xW-H3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 18:19:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33047) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cI1kL-0005Of-I8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 18:17:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cI1kK-0003ey-OS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 18:17:01 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:29026) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cI1kG-0003b2-Ve; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 18:16:57 -0500 Original-Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id uBGNGtHg007702 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 16 Dec 2016 23:16:55 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id uBGNGsT0017002 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 16 Dec 2016 23:16:55 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0002.oracle.com (abhmp0002.oracle.com [141.146.116.8]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id uBGNGs72006774; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 23:16:54 GMT In-Reply-To: <<8337hn8u81.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6753.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:210558 Archived-At: > > > One clear example of the former is Info mode, where the > > > buffer is always narrowed to the current node. > > > > Nope. That's an example of just what I said: Narrowing does > > more than just hide text from a user's eyes - and the use of > > narrowing by Info relies on that "more". >=20 > You can say "nope" all you want, the fact stays. What fact is that? How is the narrowing done by Info ONLY hiding text from user eyes? You know perfectly well that plenty of the behavior of Info depends on narrowing to nodes. It is not at all simply about hiding text from the user. Try removing the narrowing, and see how well the Info _code_ behaves.