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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
	dgutov@yandex.ru
Subject: RE: forward-comment and syntax-ppss
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 15:16:53 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a9d714ed-e1ac-41e2-becc-6ed7bf3ec4cb@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <<8337hn8u81.fsf@gnu.org>>

> > > One clear example of the former is Info mode, where the
> > > buffer is always narrowed to the current node.
> >
> > Nope.  That's an example of just what I said: Narrowing does
> > more than just hide text from a user's eyes - and the use of
> > narrowing by Info relies on that "more".
> 
> You can say "nope" all you want, the fact stays.

What fact is that?  How is the narrowing done by Info ONLY
hiding text from user eyes?

You know perfectly well that plenty of the behavior of Info
depends on narrowing to nodes.  It is not at all simply about
hiding text from the user.  Try removing the narrowing, and
see how well the Info _code_ behaves.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-12-16 23:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 299+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-28 19:50 Preview: portable dumper Daniel Colascione
2016-11-28 19:58 ` Burton Samograd
2016-11-28 20:11   ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-28 20:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-28 20:14   ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-28 20:16     ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-28 20:29     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-28 20:20   ` John Wiegley
2016-11-28 20:22     ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-28 20:26       ` John Wiegley
2016-11-28 20:31         ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-28 20:37           ` Burton Samograd
2016-11-28 20:44             ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-29 16:02               ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-11-29 17:58                 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-29 16:48               ` Richard Stallman
2016-11-29 17:32                 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-29 19:55                   ` Philippe Vaucher
2016-11-29 17:43                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-29 17:49                   ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-29 18:17                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-29 18:03                   ` John Wiegley
2016-11-29 18:23                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-29 18:49                       ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-29 19:02                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-01  9:18                         ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-01 18:11                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-02  4:28                             ` Ken Raeburn
2016-12-02  4:41                               ` Daniel Colascione
2016-12-02  8:08                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-02  8:03                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-02 17:24                                 ` Ken Raeburn
2016-11-28 20:39           ` John Wiegley
2016-11-28 20:34         ` Burton Samograd
2016-11-28 20:31     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-28 20:21   ` Paul Eggert
2016-11-28 20:34     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-28 20:47       ` John Wiegley
2016-11-28 21:14         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-28 21:55           ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-28 22:18           ` John Wiegley
2016-11-29 18:40             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-29 19:11               ` John Wiegley
2016-11-29 20:07                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-29 20:29                   ` John Wiegley
2016-11-29 20:36                     ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-29 21:30                       ` John Wiegley
2016-11-30  8:26                       ` Philippe Vaucher
2016-11-29 19:12               ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-29 16:55   ` Richard Stallman
2016-11-29 18:39     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-29 19:03       ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-29 19:59         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-29 20:28           ` John Wiegley
2016-11-29 19:13       ` Paul Eggert
2016-11-29 19:35         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-29 20:54           ` Paul Eggert
2016-11-30 16:38             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-30 18:57               ` John Wiegley
2016-11-30 19:14                 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-30 21:03                   ` John Wiegley
2016-11-30 21:06                     ` Paul Eggert
2016-11-30 21:44                       ` John Wiegley
2016-12-01  3:32                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-01  9:16                         ` Paul Eggert
2016-12-01 17:26                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-01 17:35                             ` Daniel Colascione
2016-12-01 17:58                             ` Paul Eggert
2016-11-30 21:35                     ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-30 21:44                       ` John Wiegley
2016-11-30 21:50                         ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-30 22:20                           ` John Wiegley
2016-12-01  1:37                           ` Paul Eggert
2016-12-01  1:45                             ` Daniel Colascione
2016-12-01  3:47                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-01  4:10                             ` John Wiegley
2016-12-01  4:12                               ` Daniel Colascione
2016-12-01  4:49                                 ` John Wiegley
2016-12-01  5:12                                   ` Daniel Colascione
2016-12-01  9:03                                     ` Matt Armstrong
2016-12-02  8:10                                       ` John Wiegley
2016-12-01  9:18                                     ` Phillip Lord
2016-12-01  4:10                             ` Daniel Colascione
2016-12-01  3:41                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-30 19:29                 ` Philippe Vaucher
2016-11-30 19:45                   ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-30 21:06               ` Paul Eggert
2016-12-01  9:18       ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-01 18:09         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-02  2:18           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-02  7:54             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-02  8:08               ` John Wiegley
2016-12-02  8:59                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-02 19:39                   ` John Wiegley
2016-12-02 20:11                     ` Karl Fogel
2016-12-02 21:22                       ` Daniel Colascione
2016-12-02 22:06                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-02 23:15                         ` Karl Fogel
2016-12-15 14:28                         ` Philippe Vaucher
2017-10-18 23:36                           ` Kaushal Modi
2017-10-19 10:12                             ` Jeremie Courreges-Anglas
2018-02-12 20:18                               ` Daniel Colascione
2018-02-13 16:37                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-02-14 21:03                                   ` Philipp Stephani
2018-02-15  0:42                                     ` Daniel Colascione
2018-02-15 23:31                                   ` Ken Brown
2018-02-15 23:36                                     ` Daniel Colascione
2018-02-16  1:56                                       ` Ken Brown
2018-02-16  2:36                                         ` Daniel Colascione
2018-02-17 23:38                                           ` Ken Brown
2018-02-17 23:59                                             ` Ken Brown
2018-02-18  0:02                                             ` Daniel Colascione
2018-02-19 13:30                                               ` Ken Brown
2018-02-19 17:03                                                 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-02-19 22:33                                                   ` Ken Brown
2018-02-20 16:32                                                     ` Ken Brown
2018-02-20 17:23                                                       ` Daniel Colascione
2018-02-20  1:16                                                   ` Andy Moreton
2018-02-17  1:01                                   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-02-19 17:06                                     ` Daniel Colascione
2018-02-19 22:00                                       ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-02-17 11:53                                   ` Charles A. Roelli
2018-02-17 12:09                                     ` Alan Third
2018-02-17 14:12                                       ` Charles A. Roelli
2018-02-20  0:54                                   ` Andy Moreton
2018-02-15  4:28                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-02-15 22:13                                   ` Daniel Colascione
2018-02-15 22:30                                     ` Paul Eggert
2018-02-15 22:35                                       ` Daniel Colascione
2018-02-15 22:56                                         ` Paul Eggert
2018-02-15 22:35                                     ` Paul Eggert
2018-02-15 18:34                                 ` andres.ramirez
2018-02-19 22:01                                 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2018-02-20  0:28                                   ` Daniel Colascione
2016-12-02 22:06                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-02 22:28                         ` Daniel Colascione
2016-12-03  8:48                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-03  9:34                             ` Daniel Colascione
2016-12-03 12:47                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-03 14:36                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-03 15:11                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-04 12:20                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-04 12:48                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-12-04 15:53                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-03 17:36                                   ` Daniel Colascione
2016-12-03 17:40                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-12-03 21:09                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-03 21:31                                         ` Daniel Colascione
2016-12-04  4:25                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-04 12:34                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-04 12:51                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-12-04 14:08                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-04 15:22                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-04 22:24                                             ` forward-comment and syntax-ppss (was: Preview: portable dumper) Stefan Monnier
2016-12-06 19:55                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-06 22:56                                                 ` forward-comment and syntax-ppss Stefan Monnier
2016-12-07  6:55                                                   ` Andreas Röhler
2016-12-07 14:01                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-07 14:49                                                       ` Andreas Röhler
2016-12-07 14:53                                                         ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-07 22:04                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-07 22:23                                                             ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-08 19:31                                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-08 19:54                                                                 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-09  8:37                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-08  2:32                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-08 20:15                                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-08 20:34                                                                 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-08 21:25                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-12-08 21:35                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-08 21:13                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-09 18:00                                                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-09 18:47                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-09 22:33                                                                       ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-09 23:09                                                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-10  6:56                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-10 18:39                                                                       ` Andreas Röhler
2016-12-08 21:24                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-12-08 21:47                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-09  7:39                                                                     ` Andreas Röhler
2016-12-09 19:07                                                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-09 23:30                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-12-11  0:24                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-11 10:17                                                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-11 10:40                                                                         ` Andreas Röhler
2016-12-16  1:33                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-12-16  2:06                                                                           ` Drew Adams
2016-12-16  8:12                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-16 12:32                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-12-16 16:22                                                                               ` Drew Adams
2016-12-16 19:14                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-12-16 23:16                                                                                   ` Drew Adams
2016-12-17  0:08                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-12-16 19:25                                                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-16 20:06                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-12-16 23:16                                                                                   ` Drew Adams
2016-12-17  0:42                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-12-17  1:30                                                                                       ` Drew Adams
2016-12-17  1:40                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-17  2:26                                                                                           ` Drew Adams
2016-12-17 14:37                                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-16 14:24                                                                             ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-16 16:22                                                                               ` Drew Adams
2016-12-16 19:50                                                                                 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-16 23:16                                                                                   ` Drew Adams
2016-12-17  2:39                                                                                     ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-17  4:50                                                                                       ` Wording of the Elisp manuals (was: forward-comment and syntax-ppss) Marcin Borkowski
2016-12-20  9:22                                                                                         ` Wording of the Elisp manuals Michael Heerdegen
2016-12-20 10:52                                                                                         ` Wording of the Elisp manuals (was: forward-comment and syntax-ppss) Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-12-20 16:01                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                                                             ` <<83oa0c8f7r.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-12-16 16:22                                                                               ` forward-comment and syntax-ppss Drew Adams
2016-12-16 21:00                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <<8337hn8u81.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-12-16 23:16                                                                                   ` Drew Adams [this message]
2016-12-16 20:06                                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-16 22:08                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-12-16 23:08                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-17  0:18                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-12-17  7:37                                                                                   ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-12-17  7:42                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-17 14:41                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-17 14:49                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-17 15:09                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-18 20:08                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-05 23:33                                                                                         ` Drew Adams
2016-12-17 15:38                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-19  2:31                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-12-19 13:12                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-19 13:34                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-12-19 14:17                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-19 23:16                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-12-20 13:33                                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-29 23:48                                                                                                     ` multi-modes and widen (again), was: " Dmitry Gutov
2017-11-30 13:05                                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-01 23:57                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-12-16 23:16                                                                               ` Drew Adams
2016-12-09  8:35                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-09 17:08                                                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-09 17:22                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-09 21:55                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-03 21:31                                   ` Preview: portable dumper Richard Stallman
2016-12-04 12:41                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-03 17:41                                 ` Paul Eggert
2016-12-03 19:49                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-03 21:30                                 ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-04  3:31                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-04 23:03                                     ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-03 17:24                               ` Paul Eggert
2016-12-03 15:56                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-03 21:31                               ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-04 23:05                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-02 22:29                         ` John Wiegley
2016-12-03 21:28                         ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-04 15:57                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-04 17:12                             ` Daniel Colascione
2016-12-04 23:07                               ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-05  0:24                                 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-12-06 10:38                               ` Philippe Vaucher
2016-12-02  9:00               ` Philippe Vaucher
2016-12-02 10:56                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-26 19:48                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2017-05-26 20:26                     ` Kaushal Modi
2017-05-27  7:27                       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2016-12-02 13:04               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-02 14:45                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-02 14:51                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-02 22:24                     ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-02 23:32                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-03  8:28                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-02 23:42                     ` Paul Eggert
2016-12-02 15:38                   ` Daniel Colascione
2016-12-02 17:26                   ` Ken Raeburn
2016-12-02 17:47                     ` Paul Eggert
     [not found]                   ` <<jwvlgvyv10x.fsf-monnier+Inbox@gnu.org>
     [not found]                     ` <<E1cCwGF-0002PT-Kq@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-12-03  0:07                       ` Drew Adams
2016-12-03  8:25                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-03 20:40                           ` Joost Kremers
2016-12-03 21:30                         ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                   ` <<<jwvlgvyv10x.fsf-monnier+Inbox@gnu.org>
     [not found]                     ` <<<E1cCwGF-0002PT-Kq@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]                       ` <<2b63d48d-a678-49c2-a3a9-4f91d8d8bdb4@default>
     [not found]                         ` <<8337i5mnb5.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-12-03 16:14                           ` Drew Adams
2016-12-03 16:42                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-02 14:27           ` Richard Stallman
2016-11-28 21:14 ` Paul Eggert
2016-11-28 23:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-11-28 23:17   ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-29 13:06     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-11-29 21:19       ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-29 21:35         ` Paul Eggert
2016-11-29 21:50           ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-29 22:01             ` Paul Eggert
2016-11-30  0:37               ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-30  7:35                 ` Paul Eggert
2016-11-30 13:33                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-11-30 20:07               ` Richard Stallman
2016-11-30 20:18                 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-12-03 21:32                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-03 21:37                     ` Daniel Colascione
2016-12-04 23:03                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-03 21:54                     ` Paul Eggert
2016-11-29 22:01           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-11-29 22:22           ` Philipp Stephani
2016-11-29 22:34             ` Paul Eggert

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