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Location : parse_addr6(), p0f-client.c:67 X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::334 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248582 Archived-At: On 03.05.2020 00:05, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> BTW, speaking solely of concat, the return value is always a string. > > And there's a good to make that in 99% of the cases, the arguments are > strings as well. Its main use is to concatenate strings. Yup. >> So a 'string-' prefix can make sense from that perspective anyway. > > Agreed. But I'm not sure it's a strong enough case to justify > renaming it. At least not in the current context. Maybe some years in > the future when most of the other string manipulation functions have > been brought into the `string-` prefix and people got used to expect all > string manipulations to appear there, the case for renaming `concat` > will be stronger. Note I didn't say 'rename', but only to create an alias. And 'some years in the future' we could delete the original (though more likely 1-2 decades in the future). I'm not saying we have to do this, but I do think it makes sense.