From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: ELPA policy Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 09:47:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: References: <<87ziyuaqhl.fsf@petton.fr>> <<8337wfon3f.fsf@gnu.org> <56401834.8080402@yandex.ru>> <<83ziynma4s.fsf@gnu.org> <5640C6A0.5010709@yandex.ru>> <<83twovm9es.fsf@gnu.org> > <<868u65afvh.fsf@stephe-leake.org> > <<87lha5snji.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> > <<87d1vhsmuj.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> > <<878u65slue.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> > <<874mgtsjwn.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> > <<867flp8nb7.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <9e33129a-07d0-4abe-a94e-32d6d881519b@default> > <<86bnb06g7g.fsf@stephe-leake.org>> <> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1447264110 14483 80.91.229.3 (11 Nov 2015 17:48:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 17:48:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org, Stephen Leake Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 11 18:48:19 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwZVI-0006id-Nx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 18:48:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42148 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwZVI-0002Ny-6R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:48:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40801) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwZUk-0002L8-6v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:48:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwZUL-0002YT-CV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:47:42 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:47781) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwZUL-0002Y0-5P; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:47:17 -0500 Original-Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id tABHlE8b030718 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 11 Nov 2015 17:47:14 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id tABHlEQ6020000 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 11 Nov 2015 17:47:14 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0012.oracle.com (abhmp0012.oracle.com [141.146.116.18]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id tABHlEYB029804; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 17:47:14 GMT In-Reply-To: <> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.81 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:194113 Archived-At: > We would like developers of future useful packages to want to put > their packages into the GNU ELPA. >=20 > To recommend putting some packages -- whatever they might be -- into > MELPA would work against these goals. It would have been a bad > approach. FWIW - I will continue to use MELPA for my libraries, and not GNU ELPA, for one reason: I post my code to Emacs Wiki (to locked pages). MELPA pulls the code from the wiki (daily). I do not need to use GIT etc. This is the way I prefer to work. Call it old-fashioned or bizarre; I don't care. So you might recommend that packages not be put in MELPA, but some will continue to be put there, including perhaps some that you might someday want to include in Emacs. > > Which raises the question; what is the rationale for moving from > > MELPA to Gnu ELPA? >=20 > If a package is useful to recommend, and we CAN get papers for it, > we definitely want to move it to GNU ELPA. This was refused by Stefan for my libraries (for which FSF has papers), based on the fact that I do not use GIT, so any updates I make to them would not be done directly in the repository. It was not acceptable to update elsewhere (e.g. the wiki) and then have someone or a program pull from there to the repository when appropriate. So be it.