From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Why does show_help_echo call substitute_command_keys? Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 07:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <4f821efa-1448-8ba0-d164-abeff36180d4@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1500648961 27978 195.159.176.226 (21 Jul 2017 14:56:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs developers To: =?utf-8?B?Q2zDqW1lbnQgUGl0LUNsYXVkZWw=?= , Yuri Khan Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 21 16:55:57 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dYZLM-0006ov-I7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2017 16:55:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43594 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dYZLS-0002qH-4u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2017 10:55:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43467) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dYZKQ-0002me-DK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2017 10:54:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dYZKM-0007u7-JZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2017 10:54:54 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:20206) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dYZKM-0007t4-7n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2017 10:54:50 -0400 Original-Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id v6LEslnd018150 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:54:48 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v6LEslR5019934 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:54:47 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0007.oracle.com (abhmp0007.oracle.com [141.146.116.13]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v6LEsk8k014090; Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:54:47 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6770.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:216918 Archived-At: > > Because the help-echo property is the Emacs API to tooltips, and > > tooltips are expected to be able to display keyboard equivalents to > > clicking the thing that is pointed? >=20 > Ok. So we don't expect callers to explicitly use > substitute-command-keys on their help-echo properties? We should, if/when they want the effect of `substitute-command-keys'. Emacs should not assume that `substitute-command-keys' is appropriate for a tooltip. Code that wants that behavior should ask for it.