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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:268386 Archived-At: On 25.04.2021 18:18, Stefan Kangas wrote: > I think adding PageUp/PageDown and displaying that is the best idea > here, so I have now done that on master. I really like using SPC/S-SPC for scrolling. It also works in other programs (even though Shift-Space rarely shows up in any menus or hints), so it should be helpful to support as well.