From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: quimby.gnus.org!not-for-mail From: "Ehud Karni" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Emacs for Cygwin (was: cygwin-mount.el, Using GDB in NTEMACS) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 12:06:42 +0200 Organization: Mivtach-Simon Insurance agencies Message-ID: Reply-To: ehud@unix.simonwiesel.co.il NNTP-Posting-Host: quimby2.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: quimby2.netfonds.no 1014718382 29987 195.204.10.66 (26 Feb 2002 10:13:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby2.netfonds.no NNTP-Posting-Date: 26 Feb 2002 10:13:02 GMT Cc: Cygwin@cygwin.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby2.netfonds.no with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16febV-0007nS-00 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:13:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16feXz-0002Ql-00; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 05:09:23 -0500 Original-Received: from unix.sw.co.il ([192.114.178.12] helo=bsw1.) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16feVg-0002Ix-00 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 05:07:01 -0500 Original-Received: from unix.simonwiesel.co.il (beta [10.253.0.3]) by bsw1. (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12562 for ; œTue, 26 Feb 2002 12:06:55 +0200 Original-Received: (from ehud@localhost) by unix.simonwiesel.co.il (8.11.6/8.11.4) id g1QA6gw30441; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 12:06:42 +0200 Original-To: "Jari Aalto" , " Eli Zaretskii" In-reply-to: <2561-Sat23Feb2002115725+0200-eliz@is.elta.co.il> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 23 Feb 2002 11:57:25 +0200) X-Mailer: Emacs 21.1.1 rmail (send-msg 1.106) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: quimby.gnus.org gmane.emacs.devel:1541 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:1541 Below is Eli Zaretskii mail from 23 Feb 2002. I think that we need a CygEmacs - an emacs that will be compiled with the real Cygwin ported gcc (i.e. without the -mno-cygwin). CygEmacs will have UNIX APIs for I/O (files and sockets), and M$Windows APIs for the display and the keyboard. This is already done (partly) by the Cygwin port of rxvt. If this is too difficult, may be a version of Emacs for Cygwin, that use only the UNIX APIs can be ported. This Emacs version will be used only within Cygwin's windows - Console or rxvt (Emacs in TTY mode) or real display (using Cygwin-Xfree). Any of these version will solve the 2 major issues of using Emacs with Cygwin - 1. The files (names and attributes). 2. Running of sub-shells in Emacs (file is not tty problem). It may solve another problem that bothers me - running a client on the PC to a server on UNIX. Ehud. --------------- Original Eli's mail --------------- > From: letters@hotpop.com (Jari Aalto+mail.emacs) > Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 11:29:27 +0200 > > all Windows users continue complaining why Emacs does not help them > to use Cygwin environment more easily. They should complain to Cygwin developers. I asked before, and I'll ask again: did someone try to talk to the Cygwin developers about this issue? Did someone ask them what do they think about supporting Windows file names better, and if so, what did they reply? It strikes me that an important party to this discussion is strangely absent. -- Ehud Karni Tel: +972-3-7966-561 /"\ Mivtach - Simon Fax: +972-3-7966-667 \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign Insurance agencies (USA) voice mail and X Against HTML Mail http://www.mvs.co.il FAX: 1-815-5509341 / \ mailto:ehud@unix.simonwiesel.co.il Better Safe Than Sorry _______________________________________________ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel